Can Autism be cured??

I was reading an article on Zerohedge today,a well known "far right conspiracy nutcase site"  which was about the rising prevalence of Autism.

We all know that many people claim that vaccines (or mercury used as an adjuvant in vaccines) cause Autism, (which doesn't work in my case, but what the heck, people claim all sorts of unlikely things to be true nowadays) and that position is made very clearly in the comments sections amongst many others. 

Where I agree with the strident people here who ALWAYS pop up to rubbish any ZH link I publish, is that there is a lot of rhetoric, misguided or actually 100% false opinion and information to be read in the comments section, and some of the articles are not much better, indeed.

Where I disagree with those same detractors is that reading them is a useless or even BAD experience. JUST as this forum has ME, Malojian & Juniper from Gallifrey all very different posters with different styles coming from quite clearly diffferent places ALL of us have a "place at the table" (even if it does mean putting up with the likes of me!)  and a right to be heard*.

SO that being in mind, I read a lot of them as well as the article..

Sometimes a comment really makes me sit up and think, such as the "Autism can be cured but the cure is being suppressed" comment, not least because the author has put a lot of effort in and has added citations and evidence that can be followed up on... and I did do some of them before I needed to do something else. (It's not just laziness, I am struggliing through interruptions and "new tasks" even during the writing this post, and am now irritated with how long everything takes to get done...

I saw a well dressed person clearly more successful, comfortable, and articulate than me, telling the audience to her you tube video that "yes Autism can be cured". I would rush to believe but for the fact that I've also had a bunch of very similar appearing people telling me that a succession of MRNA injections can make sure I don't catch covid I believe "Safe and Effective" was the psychologcial "baited hook" in that case, so why should I believe her?

BUT nevertheless, the question having been raised in this "fixers" head remains:

COULD Autism be "Curable"??

Not interested in the modern idea of "treatments" which are about as effective as the "servicing" that modern cars get, I'm wondering if it can be CURED like my own suicidal ideation was a few years back.

  • Can't "fix" something that's better.

  • I just want (always have) to just get along and not be a social misfit.

    It seems a more reasonable and in terms of overall energy and disruption more "economic" proposition to change the way I am, rather than to change the way everyone else is. 

    Apparenlty the issue with me always has been that I am insufficienlty obedient (particularly towards "the latest thing" at least until  I have tested and evaluated it in my own time) and I'm definitely "difficult to control" indeed one complaint I have about me is how difficult I find me to control at times. 

    (I'm my own boss these days in a way that many can only dream of being, and I have a plan, but getting me to stay on track and implement it is nigh on impossible! Even before we factor in external events which also result from my flavour of Autism, which make things difficult).

    AND another thing: I've been accused many times as a child of "being mad", (I bet I am not alone in this experience) And I (long ago) looked into what being "Mad" AKA "insane" really is, and what to look for in myself.

    So I finally get told one day in my late fifties "you might have asperger's" and the test I subsequently  take says "Oh F*** Yes you have! Mr Sperg"

    Naturally enough (not knowing of this place I head off to "reddit" to see what the chattering classes have to say about Asperger Syndrome, A.K.A. Adult Autism...

    They report literally what appears to be the whole DSM book of symptoms and issues. 

    I think "Jesus! I don't to to have this", and Jesus, having spent 30 years trying to steer us right only to get nailed up for it, remains silent... I can imagine him wearing a mysterious half smile though.

    *snips a load of talking about God* in the edit...

  • 100% agree. My first reaction on learning that I was autistic was to feel grief for the life I might have had if I’d been given appropriate help and guidance as a child.

  • No, but an early diagnosis would help to approach life in a more manageable way. Going through life not knowing is a living hell. Raising awareness and educating the medical professionals has to be the priority

  • Who defines what autism is, and which people need treatment? Autism is a spectrum disorder, with many types, (and probably many causes), ranging from very mild to extremely severe, and embedded in a person's genetics. What next, curing red hair and freckles?

    Most of the time the issue isn’t the autism itself. It’s how poorly society treats autistic people. There’s nothing wrong with you for having it, it just means you work a bit differently than other people. But instead of accommodating to those differences they make the people that have them forced to shove it down, and it’s hard.

  • Would the hypothetical cure erase the good bits as well as the bad bits? I don't think I'd trade anything in. Sometimes stuff is harder than for allistic people, but they have their own problems too. I wouldn't want to change how I see the world because it'd be boring A.F. 

  • I recommend a book in my bio that I used successfully in my twenties to solve exactly the problem you describe. 

    However when you form relationships, then comes the greater task of MANAGING AND SUSTAINING those relationships! (And also learning to cope with the heartbreak when some of them fail as seems to happen to the vast majority of people at some point whether ND or NT...)

    I'm literally offering you a solution to your given problem whilst knowing that anyone who takes it will then face a whole new and greater set of problems.. ;c}

    An alternative and partial solution is of course to find and care for an animal companion. 

  • Autism is a "way of being" that confers certain differences on the user that make him or her less able to function in this greater society in which we find ourselves.

    I can clearly see where my own Autism has seriously derailed my plans or ambitions on multiple occasions and also caused me or other great pain and misery.

    I can understand why a psychotic person would refuse to be medicated, preferring to keep their malfunctioning identity rather than be a different, quieter, but artifical drug induced person, and can transfer this knowledge to considering whether I'd want to be treated for my autism.  

    IN my case as soon as I discovered a drug when I was 18 that magically made me more acceptable to others, and stopped me getting into dangerous physical altercations it was a complete no brainer.

    4 decades later which included multiple voluntary periods of withdrawal & witholding of the drug. most being short, but due to the half life of the drug in my body some have had to be many months long, I am certain that whatever is wrong with me IS treatable by regular use of a drug, and since that appears to be a thing called "Autism", then hell yes, I want a cure!!

    There are so many, many, things I'd like to be able to do sucessfully and with grace, without having to stop and roll a joint first...

    That's one reason why some of us might seek a cure. (although life as a pot head isn't so bad, TBH) 

  • If they could fix my difficulties with forming relationships then I’d jump at the chance. Loneliness is over rated.

  • Autism is not curable, and if it is, then I don't think this community would be here in the first place. I don't see why someone would want to cure Autism aside from try to make them more obedient and easier to control, or something.

  • Magnetic Resonance Imaging is a method of viewing structures and composition, in this case being used to look at a biological structure .

    Both of which are somewhat plastic when it comes to biological things, as has been demonstrated recently by MRNA technology becoming a thing and the copious number of scans that have been made showing various changes caused by various agents. 

    SO MAYBE drastic brain surgery is only ONE possible method that could "cure Autism"?

    In much the same way as one can have a wart surgically removed by a doctor, OR you can simply dab it with an oil and the thing will just go away and not return. 

    It the same thing you want to get done, (lose the wart)  but multiple methods. 

    But, the doctor won't tell you about the oil... Many people think that ONLY a doctor knows anything useful about human biology, completely ignoring their own experience when it flies in the face of that belief, so many people can see only ONE solution, whereas some seemingly problems have multiple solutions. 

  • Why should we seek a cure? Autism isn't a disease. 

    It's Society that requires a cure perhaps, maybe then these attempts to eradicate difference would finally stop. 

  • I remember watching a Temple Grandin video which included some MRI scans of NT and ND brains and it looked like there were some quite significant differences so I suspect a cure would either have to happen soon after conception or involve some pretty major brain surgery.

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