5 year old boy with autism put on sex offender's register for hugging a classmate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/autism-chattanooga-east-ridge-elementary-united-states-nathan-a9119391.html

I'm sure having autism would make one's life difficult enough without being on the sex offender register for something he wouldn't even have understood.

I personally think feminism has gone too far- dishing out "sex offender" labels to 5 year old boys just isn't appropriate and won't help anyone.

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to Longshanks

    I don’t question the fact that there are male victims of domestic violence.

    I suspect the number of unreported incidents of domestic violence far exceeds the number of false allegations made. There are no statistics for either category.

    With regards to stigma: what really disappoints me is the number of autistic males who adopt the 4 Chan INCEL narrative, and are thereby complicit in their own stigmatisation. I will always argue vociferously against that narrative.

  • That's because women who commit crimes are given far more leniency than men. There are also men who have been falsely accused.

    There is a lot of stigma surrounding male victims of domestic violence which makes male victims less likely to come forward.

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to Just some guy

    “Of those aged 16-74 who told the Crime Survey for England and Wales that they had experienced some form of domestic abuse since they were 16, a third were male and two thirds were female.”

    https://fullfact.org/crime/are-third-domestic-abuse-victims-men/

    You will have noticed that these figures do not allow us to discover the gender of those committing the abuse. Domestic abuse figures are not a record of just spousal or partner abuse.

    “Perpetrators (of violent crimes) were most likely to be male, being reported to be so in around three-quarters of violent incidents (74%).” https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/thenatureofviolentcrimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2018#what-do-we-know-about-perpetrators-of-violent-crimes

    “The majority of suspects convicted of homicide were male (236; 94%).” https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2018#what-do-we-know-about-suspects

    “The vast majority of child sex offenders in England and Wales are male, with men representing 98% of all defendants in 2015/16, and white, with whites representing 85% of convicted child sex offenders and 86% of the general population in 2011.”

    The feminist narrative is that violence is predominantly committed by men, regardless of the gender of the victims. The above figures endorse that narrative.

    My specialist subject is the Middle East - it has been for over 35 years now. Quoting the figure below, during one my infrequent visits to the pub, does me no favours in the popularity stakes. :-)

    The US has killed in excess of 1 million muslims during the last 30 years.

  • The way that the domestic violence statistics are grossly misrepresented in the media and in Parliament to omit, hide and disregard male victims means that funding for domestic violence victims is horrifically biased on gender grounds far out of proportion with the demographics that are suffering.

    40% of victims are male. 70% of victims of non-reciprocal violence are male. Same sex male couples have the lowest rate of domestic violence and same sex female couples have the highest rate. Yet there are zero refuge places for men in the whole of Scotland.

    Disclosure: I once lived in a shared house and had to intervene in a case of domestic violence. He attacked me for intervening; I calmed him down without striking him. She'd done that quite enough already.

    (This is one of my areas of interest, and you know how ASD can cause people an unhealthy level of interest in things..)

    So yes, people who fight for equal rights have, if they're not lying about it, a clear an obvious goal. Sadly many people claim to be fighting for equal rights when they in no way at all wish to have those imposed upon them.

    Yes, the right not to be battered or murdered is an equal rights issue. Incidentally although domestic violence murder victims are indeed predominantly female, murder victims as a whole are predominantly male and if you include male suicides caused by domestic violence then the domestic violence death rate is if anything skewed against men (let alone when you start adding in suicides due to false accusations, particularly in the family courts).

    Domestic violence is bad. Do not do it. Speak out against it. But please, also speak out against anybody that demands a gendered response.

  • Change takes time. Even if we never reach true equality, surely we should keep aiming for it. 100 years ago, most of us would have probably been institutionalised, because that's what used to happen to people who didn't fit with society's image. Thankfully, things have moved on for the better - let's hope they continue to improve. Everyone deserves to have rights and to be respected.

  • Lots of things that look obvious on the surface fall apart under closer scrutiny. If it wasn't so the previous generations, who undoubtedly have yearned for a fairer place would achieve their goal.

  • Completely agree - we should always try to make the world a fairer place.

  • Okay... so I feel a little silly for falling for the click bait (I wasn't in a great head space last night). Completely agree with what you said about feminism.

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to NAS63853

    What is it about the appalling domestic violence and fatal attack statistics that you consider unable to be correctly interpreted?

    Don’t those who fight for equal rights have a perfectly obvious goal?

    Isn’t the right not to be battered or murdered an equal rights issue?

  • Where do you stop once you reached the equality? How do you even define equality when you can not correctly interpret the statistics?

    Do those who fight for any equal rights even have a proper definition of their goal and a plan what to do when the goal is reached?

  • Former Member
    Former Member

    The idea that a five year old has been put on the sex offender register is just plain silly. Here is a statement from the school:

    “This family's characterisation of the incident with their child at East Ridge Elementary does not capture the full context of the concerns expressed to them by the school. It was not a hug or kiss that prompted the school to contact the family. Also, at no time did the school administration punish the child or treat the incident as a discipline issue. Moreover, no one at the school sought to label the child as “a sexual predator.” You are confusing ‘click bait’ with actual facts.

    To then use this BS to mischaracterise feminism is even sillier, and frankly a little sinister.

    The application of aspects of feminist theory to help counter the negative narrative surrounding autism, has been a positive development.

  • First of all, it's really disturbing that they're labelling a five-year-old as a sex offender when they have no comprehension of what they're doing.

    However, I definitely wouldn't blame this on feminism. Feminism is about equality, not about alienating boys and men (those who try to do that are not true feminists).

    I just hope this little boy gets the help he needs and has this awful 'sex offender' label removed.