The war..

Is it wrong that the news is crippling me with anxiety? I seriously can’t breathe.. it’s not even my problem 

  • I'm hoping for a swift unconditional surrender from the Ukrainians in order to minimise the bloodshed.

  • My dad and grandad born in Lusk Ukraine it used to be part of Poland. But the Governments decided to make it part of Ukraine. My dads home was in now as it is Ukraine.

    I am English my mum is English but she’s dead but she is English but she’s with God now.

    My dad is in Britain he’s ok  he is a bit def now and he can’t see very well either, but then he has had his cataracts done so maybe he sees better. Not sure.

    Any way I feel ok, I am on antidepressants now.

    I felt something big and bad was going to happen 4 months ago I told the doctor and he put me on antidepressants. The last time I felt like this was before  the coronavirus first started,  I knew something big was going to happen I new people would not be able to go to college or to Church for sometime but I had no Idea why? But then the coronavirus.

    I sense big changes before they happen but I never know what will cause it just that many will die and it will be very sad for many people.

    At least I now know what this next big thing is It’s obviously a War but because I’m now on antidepressants I feel quite happy.  I hope I don’t start feeling sad again. Only time will tell.

  • I think that you have painted yourself into a corner with suspicion, conspiracy theory acceptance and sheer illogicality that you can no longer get out and acknowledge self-evident truths.

    Has the West cocked-up a number of 'interventions'? Yes, obviously. The scale of reaction to Islamic terrorism was entirely disproportionate and the regime-change in Iraq an exercise in blatant neo-colonialism. but that does not excuse Putin war-mongering and invading a sovereign nation. Democracy has no real history in the Arab world and trying to impose it from outside was bound to fail. However, it does work in Europe, and it was working in the Ukraine. There is a fundamental moral difference between the desire to introduce popular-vote democracy into a country ruled by dictatorship and the desire to introduce a dictatorship into a country which already enjoys a popular democracy. If you cannot see this distinction, you are indeed firmly stuck in your corner.

  • I keep watching the news too. I’ve been doing videos and putting them on YouTube. I always think that things on the Tv and YouTube aren’t real so you could tell your self it isn’t really because it’s not in your room only on a screen not real that’s what I do. And I love making videos it’s become a new thing I like. Just done one for today. I enjoy making videos a lot it’s really good fun for me. I hope this can help you it helps me.

  • I grew up with friends an classmates who were children of Ukrainians who had emigrated to the UK during or in the wake of WWII. I found them to be people with a very well-developed national identity and feeling. The Ukrainian nation was forged in cycles of adversity. Mongol devastation and the rule of the Golden Horde, being conquered by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the rise of the Zaporozhian Cossacks, conquest by the Muscovite Tsardom. Always on the border, always fought over by neighbouring great powers - Poland, Russia, the Ottoman Empire and the Krim Tatars. Even now the same thing is happening, but they have their language, their traditions and they have their nationhood. Even if Putin were to win, and it looks less likely now than it did when the tank columns started rolling, the Ukrainian people will still have their nationhood.

  • We should ignore this war and carry on with life as normal.

    The place is a joke of a country with an ex actor/comedian as a president.

    news.sky.com/.../ukrainian-president-was-his-countrys-voice-of-paddington-bear-12553797

  • It's a wee bit terrifying isn't it? Why people in this world just can't get on I don't know Rolling eyes War is so bloody pointless. No one wins in the end. Just means lots of pain and suffering.

    This is why I try not to look at the news. There's never anything good on there, just depressing stuff.

  • the fallout may not get you if your on a nation well out of the way....what will get you is the death of all the worlds crops due to a nuclear winter, which will then make it so theres no food and no ability to grow crops for a good 25 years perhaps, you have to be a prepper who stored a good 100 years of tinned food to survive that lol otherwise what the fallout and nuke blasts dont get, starvation and famine will get.

  • If they fire nukes, the world is gone in 60 mins.  No need to worry about it, won't be anyone left. 

    Looks like he is rattling the sabers again.  Even Putin isn't stupid enough to go down that route.  He might destroy a lot of stuff, but the US would wipe Russia off the face of the planet.  It's not called Mutually Assured Destruction, for no reason.  When one fires they all fire and more than likely no one lives beyond that point.  Well maybe some lucky ones who live in the *** end of Australia and places of no strategic value, and especially if they have enough food and water for a year.  But the UK is kaput due to the number of strategic bases, same with Europe, US, China, Aus, pretty much everywhere.  If the bombs don't get you, the fallout will.

    How about a nice game of chess? Slight smile

  • All I know folks, is that it IS now time to protest or propose.

    We just went to the nuclear alertness level known as Defcon 2 AKA "Fast Pace".

    If this goes on, they will be coming to intern me, just like in the film "Threads". How exciting!

    *Edit* we are back to DEFCON 3 now. Which is a bit more reassuring. 

    And I do hope your friends in Ukraine are safe. as far as I can tell from my perspective, which is drawn from several sources, The Russians are making an awful lot of effort to preserve the civilian infrastructure and lives. They didn't for example: shut off the water and electricity(like we do, first thing, in desert countries!) The videos I've been avidly watching, show a mixed reaction amongst the locals politically, but they all would rather there was not a war. I'll be honest I tear up when I see a bunch of civilians walking along to an uncertain future with their suitcase and cat basket. I'm personally really, really, sick of watching wars and crises erupting. I hated what was done in my name in the middle east to real people, using cluster bombs and depleted uranium.

    And as for "being on a list", if that's the cost of speaking ones mind or exploring all the available information in a "liberal democracy" (or whatever this system currently calls itself) then that's how it is.

    I know I have a file, and was briefly assigned a "handler" at one point, due to something I blundered into. I'm quite sure they have enough information to accurately evaluate me. Some of it however shows both good natured military service, and a minor "favour" that I did back in the nineties. (for which my country thanked me and told me not to do it again!) They also know how good I am (or otherwise!) at processing information and drawing the correct conclusions.

    If we have to be afraid of being placed on a list isn't that a bit middle twentieth century soviet thinking? 

  • Interesting thread, also interesting for GCHQ and NSA to identify russian sympathisers and anti-vaxxers.  I'm sure a couple on here just went on the watchlists.

    Me personally I hope someone puts a gun to Putin's head and does the world a favour.  I have friends in Ukraine that i haven't heard from for several days.

  • When I get upset by the news I avoid it for a while say like a few weeks. What I don't know can't upset or worry me. Sometimes it helps to take a break from the news. If it's getting to you take a little break from it.

    :) 

  • It's all to undermine the Prime Minister, and bring about perpetual Lib/Lab Coalition Government. 

  • Like one of our posters said, you might as well turn the news OFF. You'll only get half the story if you are lucky anyway.

    Most of you who rely on the news still do not know that Fukushima suffered a triple melt-through whereas the alt news service I rely on had the straight up information as it was happening. 

    By the time the Mainstream News was starting to whisper about a virus in china, I'd been prepping for a month! (whilst being disparaged by my partner for "being obsessed with conspiracy theory" of course)

    Of course, stepping away from the mainstream news, and it's "accreditted sources", is harder work than just slurping down the propaganda masquerading as "MSM news", you actually have to decide if the information you are getting is real or coming from someones imagination (or one of the many government sanctioned disinformationist organisations like the U.K.'s specialist cyber warfare units set up to fight "the information war") 

    It's difficult work sorting out the truth from the lies, the information from the misinformation, (which is exactly what mainstream journalism is set up to do) but for those of us who "reject the lie" currently it is work we have to do ourselves if we actually want to have a clue what's really going on out there. 

    Otherwise you get surprised by current events like this one, which has been brewing for 13 years now. This was not a surprise to anyone, who has been following events in the Ukraine in the alt media for the last few years, but most of it did not make the news, because no-one needed you to pick sides, or back us getting into a war with Russia.

    Did you know for example that the U.K. has already sent a squad and weapons to Ukraine in your name? You are already involved in this war as a belligerant!!

    Maybe you personally having seen the one sided presentation available from the idiot box, are already keen as mustard to fight the "russiian bullies" over this. 

    I find it much harder to get enthusiastic about increasing the death toll. If we supply weapons to Ukraine they won't be used to improve things over there. They will just prolong the fighting and prevent Mr Putin from keeping the casualties as low as he clearly planned. The russians even halted their action as soon as there was a chance of a meeting all day Saturday and part of Sunday until they realised their opponents were not going to attend.. IF you want to know WHY they have launched this military action read Mr Putins speech, where he explains his reasons and objectives very clearly.

    For thirty years now, we've ostracised and criticised Russia, even after they dismantled their previous political system, instead of taking the huge opportunity of engaging with them we just pushed NATO right up to their borders, whilst lightheartedly smashing up middle eastern countries and exporting death and "democrcracy" everywhere in equal measure.

    This is the result.

  • If you are open to learning WHY Russia is doing what it is currently doing, here is a link Mr Putins explanation.

    I'd rather let the man speak for himself than try to paraphrase it:

    https://thesaker.is/address-by-the-president-of-the-russian-federation-february-24-2022/?inmoderation

  • I hear ya. This whole thing between Ukraine and Russia brings me down. That’s all I hear on the news