The war..

I hear ya. This whole thing between Ukraine and Russia brings me down. That’s all I hear on the news 

Like one of our posters said, you might as well turn the news OFF. You'll only get half the story if you are lucky anyway.

Most of you who rely on the news still do not know that Fukushima suffered a triple melt-through whereas the alt news service I rely on had the straight up information as it was happening. 

By the time the Mainstream News was starting to whisper about a virus in china, I'd been prepping for a month! (whilst being disparaged by my partner for "being obsessed with conspiracy theory" of course)

Of course, stepping away from the mainstream news, and it's "accreditted sources", is harder work than just slurping down the propaganda masquerading as "MSM news", you actually have to decide if the information you are getting is real or coming from someones imagination (or one of the many government sanctioned disinformationist organisations like the U.K.'s specialist cyber warfare units set up to fight "the information war") 

It's difficult work sorting out the truth from the lies, the information from the misinformation, (which is exactly what mainstream journalism is set up to do) but for those of us who "reject the lie" currently it is work we have to do ourselves if we actually want to have a clue what's really going on out there. 

Otherwise you get surprised by current events like this one, which has been brewing for 13 years now. This was not a surprise to anyone, who has been following events in the Ukraine in the alt media for the last few years, but most of it did not make the news, because no-one needed you to pick sides, or back us getting into a war with Russia.

Did you know for example that the U.K. has already sent a squad and weapons to Ukraine in your name? You are already involved in this war as a belligerant!!

Maybe you personally having seen the one sided presentation available from the idiot box, are already keen as mustard to fight the "russiian bullies" over this. 

I find it much harder to get enthusiastic about increasing the death toll. If we supply weapons to Ukraine they won't be used to improve things over there. They will just prolong the fighting and prevent Mr Putin from keeping the casualties as low as he clearly planned. The russians even halted their action as soon as there was a chance of a meeting all day Saturday and part of Sunday until they realised their opponents were not going to attend.. IF you want to know WHY they have launched this military action read Mr Putins speech, where he explains his reasons and objectives very clearly.

For thirty years now, we've ostracised and criticised Russia, even after they dismantled their previous political system, instead of taking the huge opportunity of engaging with them we just pushed NATO right up to their borders, whilst lightheartedly smashing up middle eastern countries and exporting death and "democrcracy" everywhere in equal measure.

This is the result.

Like one of our posters said, you might as well turn the news OFF. You'll only get half the story if you are lucky anyway.

Most of you who rely on the news still do not know that Fukushima suffered a triple melt-through whereas the alt news service I rely on had the straight up information as it was happening. 

By the time the Mainstream News was starting to whisper about a virus in china, I'd been prepping for a month! (whilst being disparaged by my partner for "being obsessed with conspiracy theory" of course)

Of course, stepping away from the mainstream news, and it's "accreditted sources", is harder work than just slurping down the propaganda masquerading as "MSM news", you actually have to decide if the information you are getting is real or coming from someones imagination (or one of the many government sanctioned disinformationist organisations like the U.K.'s specialist cyber warfare units set up to fight "the information war") 

It's difficult work sorting out the truth from the lies, the information from the misinformation, (which is exactly what mainstream journalism is set up to do) but for those of us who "reject the lie" currently it is work we have to do ourselves if we actually want to have a clue what's really going on out there. 

Otherwise you get surprised by current events like this one, which has been brewing for 13 years now. This was not a surprise to anyone, who has been following events in the Ukraine in the alt media for the last few years, but most of it did not make the news, because no-one needed you to pick sides, or back us getting into a war with Russia.

Did you know for example that the U.K. has already sent a squad and weapons to Ukraine in your name? You are already involved in this war as a belligerant!!

Maybe you personally having seen the one sided presentation available from the idiot box, are already keen as mustard to fight the "russiian bullies" over this. 

I find it much harder to get enthusiastic about increasing the death toll. If we supply weapons to Ukraine they won't be used to improve things over there. They will just prolong the fighting and prevent Mr Putin from keeping the casualties as low as he clearly planned. The russians even halted their action as soon as there was a chance of a meeting all day Saturday and part of Sunday until they realised their opponents were not going to attend.. IF you want to know WHY they have launched this military action read Mr Putins speech, where he explains his reasons and objectives very clearly.

For thirty years now, we've ostracised and criticised Russia, even after they dismantled their previous political system, instead of taking the huge opportunity of engaging with them we just pushed NATO right up to their borders, whilst lightheartedly smashing up middle eastern countries and exporting death and "democrcracy" everywhere in equal measure.

This is the result.

And your thoughts are worth as much as mine on this matter..

And for that matter this guys thoughts on the matter. Although he is at least actually there... 

Caution, it's a NON mainstream channel, offensive points of view are allowed to exist and tolerated on that site, some people don't like that sort of thing, which is O.K., but you should be warned it's a triggering environment)

The link appears to be a simple bloke like myself talking like I would (and do) about his situation. It looks real enough to me, (as real as any other reporting anyway) but I'll only be sure after performing more due diligence. He does also use bad words right at the end. It's as impossible to verify this stuff as it is to verify what is in the Mainstream News these days, but we DO live in an age where real people all have camera phones, and the information is out there, and the real stuff, stands out to those with any sort of functioning moral compass. You guys be the judge..

www.bitchute.com/.../

I think that you have painted yourself into a corner with suspicion, conspiracy theory acceptance and sheer illogicality that you can no longer get out and acknowledge self-evident truths.

Has the West cocked-up a number of 'interventions'? Yes, obviously. The scale of reaction to Islamic terrorism was entirely disproportionate and the regime-change in Iraq an exercise in blatant neo-colonialism. but that does not excuse Putin war-mongering and invading a sovereign nation. Democracy has no real history in the Arab world and trying to impose it from outside was bound to fail. However, it does work in Europe, and it was working in the Ukraine. There is a fundamental moral difference between the desire to introduce popular-vote democracy into a country ruled by dictatorship and the desire to introduce a dictatorship into a country which already enjoys a popular democracy. If you cannot see this distinction, you are indeed firmly stuck in your corner.

It's all to undermine the Prime Minister, and bring about perpetual Lib/Lab Coalition Government.