Published on 12, July, 2020
What I am about to talk about is not a joke, I have not been taking any drugs, neither am I under the influence of alcohol. I think I am either very brave? or extremely stupid?? we shall see!!
It is to do with how we (Me in particular) see things and what we can see. (With my eyes opened or closed, it makes no difference, I can also 'sense or feel' if you will 'somethings'
I am not claiming to be a Temple Grandin, or Rain-man (But I am sure you can guess what my Nickname was growing up."Raymond" that is an interesting life fact I think) Back on the track, there is no easy way to say this.
I can see, like an X-ray into my partners body. Also I can see where the pain is in her body, including how deep it is. (This is great for her as she has fibro-myalga I have never really told anyone before about this, (Cos it is kinda scary. And is not 'this will help you fit-in, material') So I am going to put this here, and also on my Facebook page. If anyone want's or need's to private message me about it, feel free to do so, know that I understand why you would feel the need to do that. I think the source of this ability is HFA-Autism, hopefully this will encourage anyone who is like me, to come forward. I guess what I am asking is 'What should I do with it?' There is a massive knowledge bank here on this site, I really need answers. I have put it out there now. Thought's anyone?? For the record I am nod delusional . . . . I eagerly await your replies, thanks from the depths of my soul. Hendrow aka 'Rain-man'
Hendrow said:I think the source of this ability is HFA-Autism
You sincerely believe that you can do these things. I beg to differ.
I would use the word illusion rather than ability.
None of the other forum members have this ability so it is not likely to be a result of autism.
I suspect that you have been under enormous stress recently to the extent that you really don't know if you are coming or going.
I guess that you are also taking medication that will have side effects. Some side effects can be profoundly mind altering.
Hey Recombinantsocks,
Given that:
Hendrow said: I can see, like an X-ray into my partners body. Also I can see where the pain is in her body, including how deep it is.
I can see, like an X-ray into my partners body. Also I can see where the pain is in her body, including how deep it is.
and that:
recombinantsocks said: You sincerely believe that you can do these things. I beg to differ. I would use the word illusion rather than ability.
I think the situation is then that 'you believe' that Hendrow cannot or is not doing as he describes, and you are not aware that illusions do correspond with psychic sensibilities in terms of being pictographic/photographic representations of particular types of phenomena, such as for instance colours are in terms of being illusions of the mind ~ in that what we see around and about us is actually just black and white, or shades of grey. Whatever is experienced visually is both a presentation and a representation, as being then an illusion and by default an ability.
recombinantsocks said: None of the other forum members have this ability so it is not likely to be a result of autism.
Well I know of several autistic people with similar abilities and have already stated that I have them too, and I am a member of this forum also. Of course to the uninformed or inexperienced being psychic and autistic might seem not to correspond, but most of the long established religions state otherwise, as do particular fields of psychology as mentioned previously above. Further more:
From:
https://www.psychologytoday.com./blog/stuck/.../are-autistic-and-psychic-people-similar?
Anneli Rufus >(a certified Intuitive Gestalt Dialogue Method practitioner)<
Author of Stuck: Why We Can't (or Won't) Move on.
Are Autistic and Psychic People Similar?
After meeting autistic animal behaviour expert Temple Grandin and then reading Grendin's
bestselling books, Nancy Du Tertre realised that she and Grandin had a lot in common.
"I was immediately struck with how much the interior would of the autistic resembles
the interior world of the psychic," Du Tertre told me in an interview this week, "Like autistics,
psychics often tend to suffer a defect in reasoning power, can't explain how they just seem
to know things, cant find words to describe their experiences, and share a right
hemisphere ability to absorb the world holistically, visually, and extremely literally."
"It is this literalness of sensory experience which can seem, to the non-autistic and non-psychic
person, to be overwhelming, confusing and nonsensical. It is a far cry from our 'normal' logical,
sequential and rational world."
It would seem that for you then psychic phenomena is nonsensical. Obviously just because we are autistic ~ it does not mean that as such we all have psychic abilities beyond what is considered normal, i.e. knowing someone is looking at us, going to call us or is in mortal danger or dying, but being autistic does mean that the chances of having psychic or empathic abilities beyond the norm is by proportion more the case (i.e. seeing auras and auric embodiments) ~ in general terms when compared with neurotypicals.
Deepthought said:It would seem that for you then psychic phenomena is nonsensical.
It all depends on definitions. If a psychic is a person that can pick up, subconsciously, on the collective historical actions, expressions (visible body language and verbal speech) of a person in a way that they can't understand or verbalise then that is OK. NT people are often better at picking things up through expression and are often better in tune with other people. I suppose that a ND person may be better at some parts of this and might specialise and tune their ability in the solitude of their social isolation.
The problem comes when people speak of telepathy as a psychic power. I am deeply sceptical of any possibility that there are alternative ways of passing thoughts from one person to another that do not rely on one of the recognised physical transport mechanisms. We transmit our thoughts by speech, expression, by the accumulated trail of physical actions that we leave behind us when we make things, break things, move things around and organise things and so on. We do not have a way of passing our thoughts through walls to another person in another place unless there is some real mechanism to transmit that thought.
It seems to me that Hendrow may be picking up on other people's pains and emotions subconsciously but that the mental image that he has of that pain is too "real" to him and that he perhaps cannot distinguish between a mental image and a real image. The ability of the mind to construct very convincing images is very familiar to most people because dreams seem to be absolutely real when we are experiencing them. We know, however, when we wake up that we have been dreaming and we are happy to distinguish dreams and other imagined events from images that have a basis in reality. A problem comes when a person cannot distinguish between reality and imagined things. To be clear, some imagined visions can be very useful regardless of whether they were generated in a dream or while a person is conscious. Perhaps some people can slip between consciousness and sleep via a mixed up state where they are unclear about whether they are dreaming or having real experiences?
One other somewhat tangential observation is that Hendrow expresses a fear of mental illness and a reluctance to discuss things in terms of mental illness. I think that an inability to distinguish reality from imagination could be (but isn't necessarily!) so problematic as to require mental health considerations. Surely, on this forum, we should not be afraid of discussing mental health issues and concerns. I am aware that my own mind has been very disturbed at various points. For me, the issues passed by in the same way that a weather storm passes. I am aware that the mental health in my mind has different states on different days and I liken this to meteorological weather in that it can be sunny or stormy on different days. Perhaps it would help if we made a conscious effort to normalise discussions about mental health by discussing them more openly?
Deep Thought said: Your rejection of statistical or percentile data would be acceptable if the crime reduction experiment only dealt with a small range of sub-districts or districts in Washington, D.C., rather than the collective. Also your association of the Washington crime reduction study with the American sub-prime mortgage crash, this is about as reasonable as discrediting physics on account of atomic power disasters!
Your rejection of statistical or percentile data would be acceptable if the crime reduction experiment only dealt with a small range of sub-districts or districts in Washington, D.C., rather than the collective.
Also your association of the Washington crime reduction study with the American sub-prime mortgage crash, this is about as reasonable as discrediting physics on account of atomic power disasters!
I don't reject statistic per se but I am wary of claims that X depends on Y when no causality test ( see http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Granger_causality ) is quoted. People were given Nobel prizes for their work on risk prior to the financial crash. It turned out that their statistic interpretation was not useful in trying to predict human behaviour even though they had built sophisticated statistical models. My suspicion is that the crime data is not really explicable by the stats. Other statistical models can be useful - but statistics is one of the truly difficult branches of maths that is more often abused than used sensibly. Hence the phrase "lies, damned lies and statistics".
recombinantsocks said: I think that you are saying that we are affected by everything in the universe and are therefore connected to everything else. This is true but there is no useful signal that can be divined from such co-existence.
I think that you are saying that we are affected by everything in the universe and are therefore connected to everything else. This is true but there is no useful signal that can be divined from such co-existence.
I am not personally into divination myself, as my thing is transcendental meditation and self development, so if 'something' (whatever it may be) is meant to be known it will be so only when it is so. I am very very much a present tense sort of person myself.
As for how useful things are for you will depend upon your developmental tastes and your needs in life, just as other people's developing tastes and needs determines what they find to be individually fulfilling for themselves.
recombinantsocks said: We can take comfort from our shared existence but it does not mean that it is passing information to us except in the sense that we have shared history, common DNA etc which enables separated twins, for example, to be on the same wavelength in spite of their separation.
We can take comfort from our shared existence but it does not mean that it is passing information to us except in the sense that we have shared history, common DNA etc which enables separated twins, for example, to be on the same wavelength in spite of their separation.
As well as the collective unconscious in genetic terms, there is also the collective consciousness in psychic terms, keeping in mind that consciousness is not awareness, and that psychic awareness involves the development of mental and physical experiences of consciousness and the material environment.
Hence for twins there is at least a strong genetic and cellular coherence in terms of their psychic entanglement individually, as applies to others also to different extents (physically, mentally and psychically) regarding collective and universal consciousness.
recombinantsocks said: I do find the twins studies fascinating but I am also struck by the way that my thinking patterns are pre-programmed by my DNA. I have moments when I understand that I am responding in the same way as my father did even though he has been dead for some years - the influence persists through the complexity of the DNA that we had in common.
I do find the twins studies fascinating but I am also struck by the way that my thinking patterns are pre-programmed by my DNA. I have moments when I understand that I am responding in the same way as my father did even though he has been dead for some years - the influence persists through the complexity of the DNA that we had in common.
Actually ~ linguistic frameworks or language bases are genetically 'pre-conditioned'. The 'pre-programmed' aspect involves others (i.e. parents and so fourth) who have already learnt to speak, think and behave in formulated and consistent patterns according to others (i.e. their parents and so fourth).
recombinantsocks said: I find that your case is not helped by such references to crime statistics. I find such items ludicrous. The "usual standards of social science" (like the understanding of economics that lead to the recent financial crashes) do not withstand the same scrutiny as the physics experiments that have measured gravity waves.
I find that your case is not helped by such references to crime statistics. I find such items ludicrous. The "usual standards of social science" (like the understanding of economics that lead to the recent financial crashes) do not withstand the same scrutiny as the physics experiments that have measured gravity waves.
Statistics is a branch of mathematics that deals with the collection, analysis, interpretation, presentation and organisation of data.
recombinantsocks said: I enjoy listening to Laurie Taylor (Thinking Allowed) but I listen to him for entertainment and enlightenment rather than as a source of facts.
I enjoy listening to Laurie Taylor (Thinking Allowed) but I listen to him for entertainment and enlightenment rather than as a source of facts.
I like 'Classic FM' in the baroque sense of things, although my tastes in the operatic sense are minimal, whereas for entertainment classical music is instead enlightenment in the awareness sense of reliving choosey eidetic recollections, and so forth.
recombinantsocks said: I have little use for this spiritual stuff in the same way that I have little use for fiction these days.
I have little use for this spiritual stuff in the same way that I have little use for fiction these days.
What you find useful other than the topics of spiritual reality and fictional compositions is up to you as an individual, and that which others likewise or otherwise identify with or relate to individually, that is equally as much up to them.
recombinantsocks said: The real world contains well enough fantastic detail and fabulous stories to keep me entertained.
The real world contains well enough fantastic detail and fabulous stories to keep me entertained.
I find the realities of the world and the relativities of the mind-body relationship are that which keep me most enthusiastically intrigued.
recombinantsocks said: Each to their own?
Each to their own?
Respectfully so most definitely yes ~ what with there being as many different ways to appreciate life as there are living things in life, or in more catchy terms perhaps, "Different strokes for different folks."