Elections and politics

I'm more of a 'political animal' than the average person, but way of being a 'political nerd'(for want of a better phrase). I'm a member of the Labour party. Self define as a 'pragmatic socialist' . Voted for Yvette Cooper in 2015. Don't like the pro Corbyn, anti Starmer pseudo-socialists. They're quite happy to sacrifice the disabled and/or vulnerable in a quixotic quest for an ultra l/w utopia. They'd like Labour to be an ideologically pure perpetual protest party rather than one that can win an election and change things. I'll never understand the mentality of those who condemn Labour for not being left wing enough, and then are quite happy to enable a decidedly more r/w Tory party.

The current let's attack Labour and Starmer over Gaza bs really pees off. They don't give a flying f**k about those in Gaza, that's evidenced by sod all mention of Hamas and the Tories.

i think the corbyn crowd and his momentum are actually the extreme far left communists of the party.

which then make all the standard left socialists all look bad and confuse the issue. yeah your better off without those types.

starmers done a good job centering the party and making it suitable for everyone and got rid of the control of the extremist communists that would throw us all under a bus for their selfish ideology. 

and yeah they dont care about anything, those people they virtue signal and use things and lie about them for their own purposes and gains.

Disgraceful.

You ask 'which genocide?' and then you acknowledge in the next paragraph the intention to 'wipe out the Palestinians'...which is genocide. Read about the Balfour Declaration, the 76-year occupation, The Nakba, the recent calls for arrest by international lawyers. A genocide is happening in Gaza, and the two largest political parties in the UK have supported it.

What I’ve noticed and observed from my 30 years in supermarket retailing in both my native Ireland and here in the U.K. (23 years) is the moral bankruptcy from all of our political leaders on all sides of the political spectrum on both sides of the Irish Sea and beyond - given my Rural Irish Catholic background and as an older Irish gay man, our grandparents generation gave us a clear sense of right and wrong and a clear moral compass, none of which I see from any of our political leaders, where morality, integrity and decency has gone out the window - future generations long after we are all gone, starting with the actual babies of today, are going to have to endure a whole world of pain and great suffering as they grow up towards adulthood, where they will not even be afforded the relative freedoms that we had when we were growing up 

What I’ve noticed and observed from my 30 years in supermarket retailing in both my native Ireland and here in the U.K. (23 years) is the moral bankruptcy from all of our political leaders on all sides of the political spectrum on both sides of the Irish Sea and beyond - given my Rural Irish Catholic background and as an older Irish gay man, our grandparents generation gave us a clear sense of right and wrong and a clear moral compass, none of which I see from any of our political leaders, where morality, integrity and decency has gone out the window - future generations long after we are all gone, starting with the actual babies of today, are going to have to endure a whole world of pain and great suffering as they grow up towards adulthood, where they will not even be afforded the relative freedoms that we had when we were growing up