Government want to look at disability bank accounts to see what we are spending on: this is not good for us autistic.

no but i can google it if i wanted to.

but from the word, i can split it up and see the word utility in it and see its likely about either the government functioning and running the utilities we need... or its about using the government as a tool.utility itself?

Every Tory Government will be undermined, by the Elites, as they want LibLab Dictatorship.

I can see your reasoning, and for those people who's income exceeds their expenditure by a moderate amount consistently, and who have enough self control to keep a wary eye on their own consumption and expenditure our modern "conveniences" are wonderful.

As to your last line, providing we have the option to have a choice between cash and digital, that will be fine by me.

but labour and conservatives are side by side copy pasting one another and totally the exact same in every single way... theres no difference, so you cant complain about one party then vote another which is matching that party...

plus parties will never match what you want... do you understand there can be millions of separate policies in politics? ....how can any party truly match and allign with what you want? its impossible, you have more chance of correctly guessing all 6 or 7 of the winning lottery numbers every single day for a entire 4 year term than it is to get a party to ever allign with what you want or even come close to it as the amount of decisions and policies are so vast people cant comprehend how vast it is.... infact the parties dont either as they neglect and leave alot of policies untouched which then gives that effect of every party being the exact same because they are keeping most policies untouched all the time and the same.

i suppose you can dumb it down to focusing on taxation as that directly effects how much money they take off us or allow us to keep.... but yeah, you all hated liz truss who wanted to give us tax cuts and allow us to keep our money, so then that made the ruling party see that hate and think you wanted tax raises instead so they kept our taxs the same and raised it on rich people and businesses think thats what you wanted but then you still criticised that.... to have effective government you need effective criticism and tell them what you want rather than just hate them for the sake of it. but thats what we got, we got a population that doesnt understand politics and sends mixed messages because they vote from hatred rather than from understanding politics.

Especially the Old Labour types, who were politicised in the Early Eighties. They still view Socialism with rose-tinted glasses.

It generally means I have a choice of Labour, the Lib Dems or the Greens, if they're on the ballot, considering my personal beliefs. I've voted for all of them at one point or another. I would very much like proportional representation to come in because a lot of the time it feels like a vote for anyone other than Labour or the Tories () is wasted.

Ditto. I am aligned to no party. I look at the issues, candidates and manifestos each time I vote and make a selection.

One of the biggest problems with our democracy is people who build an identity around a political party then keep voting for them even when it’s clear the party has changed or just run out of ideas.

I vote for the candidate/party that most closely aligns with my personal values, and do my due diligence on them before each election.

I vote because otherwise I have no grounds to complain about what happens in this country. If you're dissatisfied with something then you work to make the change you want.

I don't know if things have reached a more sensible balance now, but when I worked in a companies I.T department in the 1990's the email server guys would be the source of the most juicy gossip.  

I remember once being told that the H.R. director (Who I seriously was crushing on at the time) was having or seeking boob reduction surgery, and every time I saw her after being given that awful knowledge I just wanted to say Nooooo..

I'd say that there was a utilitarian case for voting. Are you familiar with Utilitarianism?

Imperial outreach.

The USSA wants total control.

Sorry, I'll keep using direct debits and contactless payments because otherwise I would never remember to pay everything and I abhor touching things too many people have touched.

For me increasingly digital systems are a massive benefit, the less I have to interact with people and physical things to do things the better.

To each their own, the option to have the choice is the happy medium.

I try to be rigorous...

Breath on that ember of financial understanding!

That's exactly the mechanism by which they twitched away control of our money centuries ago..

If you want to "save" for a long period of time, (and you might!) Consider a vehicle of saving such as Silver or gold UK coinage, (30 quid for a 1 oz Brittania and 400 quid for a UK gold Sovereign) both offer "privacy" and relative immunity from "inflation" and "revalulng" both of which happen to cash over time, every time.   

P.S. if anyone seriously considers investing in bullion send me a P.M. and I'll send you a voucher for a free ounce of silver with your first investment. - Disclosure: I get one too! and I've a decent size stack now... 

i dont vote for parties myself...

people may get angry about that and say that people died for my right to vote... but voting for parties i think is a insult to everyone that died for a vote because voting for parties isnt actually real democracy or real voting.

you vote for a party because you agree with one of their policies.... but then all the other 1000 policies they have you disagree with but yet because you voted the party you voted many thousands of policies you disagree with .... so you gave open consent to the party to do any horrendous thing by voting for them.... never give someone open consent to do anything.

voting parties is what we call elective dictatorship... your voting for a party to take away your votes and make decisions for you to dictate to you. this is why i dont vote elections.... this is why i liked brexit because for once it gave us a direct single policy to vote on instead of a party to dictate this to us instead. we need more of this direct democracy and less party dictatorship.

your right, they can already do this, and they have ever bit of data and info about every one of us already.

most people are too foolish to understand but yet people from the middle east who came here to commit attacks knew about all of this monitoring and had code words in their text and phone calls... because text and phone calls go through a provider who is then bound by law to hand your entire text and call logs to the government, everything you do on phone is recorded, every text is stored in a database.... those idiots sending nudes of themselves the phone company sees them and stores them and hands them to the government who then sees them.... how foolish people are to not know this stuff. they have been doing this all times already. it makes no difference as you said its just media fear mongering things that already happen.

You are very Libertarian which is pleasing to hear.  I personally vote though as I think it makes a slight difference.  Not a huge difference.  People expect too much from their vote, in essence.

I like to make sure that various  campaigns  get a little gift too. But not every can do that  as people are skint these days.

I Sperg said:

some hippie in the sixties

Lol thats some great citing 

You guys!!

With yer left/right politics....

"It matters not who you vote for, the government always gets in". - some hippie in the sixties

"Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not what rules you enact"   -  Mayer Amschel Rothschild - centuries ago...

Gutle Schnaper died in 1849, she was the wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild. Before her death she would nonchalantly state, "If my sons did not want wars, there would be none." 

We live in a society which pays the people who care for our old people peanuts, whilst paying the people who see us simply as a source of food, vast sums of "tribute" and then ADMIRE them as they breeze past us in their clean luxury vehicles which are so clean and excellently maintained because that sort of "carer" gets paid well... 

P'tach!! 

I Sperg said:

Don't EVER stop using cash.

I do like cash because when I have money on a card, I end up spending it all because its just a number and I cant physically see when im running low