Government want to look at disability bank accounts to see what we are spending on: this is not good for us autistic.

Don't EVER stop using cash.

DO NOT ADOPT CBDC's "for the convenience". 

FFS stop using direct debits, and paying "interest" on everything you own! The first takes all control away from you under the guise of helping you manage, and the second is financially speaking like voluntarily submitting to having leeches attached to your financial (metaphorcal) body.

Learn the difference between your annual turnover of money and your net cashflow, and (if you can of course, according to some members and people I meet in real life, some concepts I find obvious and "basic" are too difficult to follow) work out just HOW MUCH of you weekly income directly benefits you and your family.

I think you will all find (as I did) how incredibly unselfish with your money you all are. You literally throw it into the hands of rich strangers at every turn, who in exchange enact rules to further restrict and tax your activities, using those taxes to do what exactly?

Once they get you hooked on digital money, it'll be worth whatever (((they))) say it is on any given day, and your access to it will depend on a dazziling variety of ever changing factors completely outside of YOUR control. And the amount of financial fleas will multiply...

Sorry, I'll keep using direct debits and contactless payments because otherwise I would never remember to pay everything and I abhor touching things too many people have touched.

For me increasingly digital systems are a massive benefit, the less I have to interact with people and physical things to do things the better.

To each their own, the option to have the choice is the happy medium.

I can see your reasoning, and for those people who's income exceeds their expenditure by a moderate amount consistently, and who have enough self control to keep a wary eye on their own consumption and expenditure our modern "conveniences" are wonderful.

As to your last line, providing we have the option to have a choice between cash and digital, that will be fine by me.

No, that way they'd be forced to actually look at what they're voting for. Informed voting is the ideal, not diminishing who can vote.

The current problem is the disinformation, party politics and apathy of a large number of potential voters. More education on politics in school would be good. A legal requirement to vote would be another, like Australia. Proportional representation so we can get away from basically a two party system. More options create more opportunities for a broader spectrum of political views to be represented.

Oof Americans are dumb lol (light hearted. I can make fun of them cause I am american)

Caelus said:

the average iq of europe is said to be 100.... and 100 is actually the average anyway so europe is very average.

america on the other hand has a average iq of 98.... this is all google by the way.

No, the mean IQ is 100 or thereabouts and 50% have IQs below that and 50% above. Although even if the mean was 70 or 250, it would still hold that 50% would be below averages and 50% above. That’s what the average is all about.

the average iq of europe is said to be 100.... and 100 is actually the average anyway so europe is very average.

america on the other hand has a average iq of 98.... this is all google by the way.

but as i said its nonsense because no one does iq tests lol

Believe it or not, the nationalists are proposing what is called “Sterlingisation”.

This means unofficially using Sterling as the currency. There’s nothing the UK could do to stop this (we could equally use the US dollar or the Indian Rupee).

But it comes with massive disadvantages - no control of the money supply, interest rates being set by what would be a foreign country to us, no lender of last resort to bail us out if there was a financial crisis or another pandemic, and disqualification from joining the EU.

All things which the SNP have acknowledged at one time or another, but they truly can believe six impossible things before breakfast.

BeckyThump said:

Perhaps they call your views right wing because they are. If you support a party like the Tories, as you have in other threads, then you are supporting a right wing party. That is unavoidable.

i support no party, i support direct democracy and single voting events.
but if the tories were to do something like lower my tax id agree with them that my tax needs to be lowered.... and id expect labour voters should have agreed on them when they lowered the entry level for the upper tax band as that made more people  pay upper tax band but apparently labour voters dont like socialist policies when the tories do them. showing again its a cult as you said in another comment, rather than policy voting.

my direct vote on single issues is a direct democracy voting that gets rid of party cults

The average when not clarified if the mean, mode or median, is generally the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number. So all of the IQ values added together divided by the number of people. Which would mean (no pun intended) that yes, half of the population would be under the average mean value. Unless there were significantly more  exceptionally low IQ scores than exceptionally high IQ scores that would skew the bell curve.

Hmm. Well if 50% have below average and google says below average is under 70 and above average is above 130. so 50% have a score of 70 or higher and the percent of above 130 must be very small, yet alot of people on here have a IQ about that high (I saw on the twice exceptional thread)

i get accused of being right wing by the left wing, and being a communist by the right wing lmao

im in that special place were i annoy both sides... although perhaps im always just that way, perhaps i like to argue. i can list every single view in existence on a topic if needed, and people will think they are my views instead of a example of views. but my views can change and be fluid, or can be expansive and cover a wide range, like hot hot isnt just hot, its varying temperatures and any temperature is ok anyway although some can burn.

No, IQ distribution across the whole population is a Bell curve around the mean (although  curiously this is not true of the autistic population). Very few people would happen to have exactly the mean IQ.

id be for that, at least its a better change from the current system anyway that way you can vote on policy rather than popularity contest that was inbred into people.

but then are the people all too dumb to vote on that though yet as you both said?
in that case why dont we just allow people who are rich to vote as surely the rich are smart enough? lol
or perhaps people are too dumb to vote that means we need a dictatorship?

in response to a disapeared comment;

scotland has already been told by the uk government it isnt keeping the pound Stirling and would indeed have to make its own currency. so it will at least check list its own currency and bank as its already been told its not having the pound.... i mean it will be seperate and the uk cant risk another entity tied to the pound which could tank the pounds value. so it will have to be cut off if it leaves.... but thats up to the scottish people. we english have always been this way... if you want to go, vote on it, and the peoples will shall be absolute... if you all vote no then dont argue at the english for it as it was your own peoples choice.. we gave you a choice, you all voted no already.

also if you previously said you lived through the brexit referendums i guess that means you are perhaps young? because to me those events didnt happen so far back for me to speak of them historically as a past thing, and so therefore by age and perception by your own logic youd be excluded from votes by your ideas as if brexit was so far back to be so historical and long away for you then it shows lack of life experience to vote in a educated fashion.

Amerantin (former member) said:

50% of the population have a below average IQ

How is that possible? an average IQ is based on the average score of the population, so majority people have the average otherwise it wouldnt be an average

I once worked with someone who thought you could see the fish through the Channel tunnel, and that albinos came from Albania.

Without going out of your way to find out about political issues and party agendas, most people don't have a clue what each party is actually campaigning on other than a few hot topic issues. The various different media sources put their spin on those, creating an echo chamber for the people who access them.

So yes, Amerantin is right, most people don't have a clue.

Personally, I'm in favour of a condensed version of the campaign promises being put on the polling slip without any indication of who it's for, and all campaigns have to be done anonymously, like the Masked Singer. Take the personality cult out of politics, make it about the issues instead.

Well said 

If I was ever accused of being right wing I'd stand up for myself and my own beliefs.  No one ever accuses me of being right wing though.

There's a lot to unpack there.

Your idea for how we should be governed is unworkable. Even given advances in technology for voting, there would need to be an organisation in place to create policy to be voted on by the public, which would need to be appointed somehow, perhaps by being voted for by the public since their role would be instrumental in advocating policy. There would then be different people, with different stances to select from who wanted that role, which isn't any different from what we have now. Some form of government is unavoidable for a large society. History has proven that over and again, regardless of technology. What that government should look like is the issue.

Perhaps they call your views right wing because they are. If you support a party like the Tories, as you have in other threads, then you are supporting a right wing party. That is unavoidable.

You're painting the middle class as some sort of devious, manipulative cohesive entity that are all out to get you. Can you not see that how you're talking about them is exactly the same as you're accusing them of talking about you? I'll be honest, most of the people I know in the nominal middle class, myself included, aren't that concerned about people from any class more than another, they're more concerned about their daily lives and trying to do the best they can with what they've got. The same as everyone else.

The people who are being manipulative are the press, the politicians, and the prominent people in society, because it's their job to do it and they get paid well for it. Some do it to a larger extent than others so some are more to blame than most. And some walk an exceedingly fine line between truth and lies, fact and fiction, spinning and twisting things to suit their narrative.

Labour's hands aren't clean by any means, but the Tories win the prize for two faced platitudes for the masses. Using everything they can to try to convince the people that they're truly looking out for the best interests of everyone, when that couldn't be furthest from the truth. Look at the COVID debacle, "Let them due" they said behind closed doors whilst giving money for contracts to their mates who then did nothing.

I'll take occasionally misguided socialists over elitist billionaires any day.

i do but even the left wing working class would be accused of being right wing with how they talk and the words they use.... and theyd all be accused of being too thick to be allowed a vote buy so called "left wing" middle classers... which then claim we dont know what socialism is despite the fact they just said working class shouldnt be allowed any political voice because we are too dumb? and yet we dont know what socialism is and they just broke the very core concept of socialism by those words lol

Do you realise that people from all different classes have all different kind of views? There are right wing posh people, right wing middle class people and right wing working class people.  There are also Left wing posh people, left wing middle class people and left wing working class people.

It doesn't seem to me that you understand that.

and what does IQ mean? lol
a person with a so called low iq is probably smarter and more respectable than a arrogant egotistical person with a high iq... and either way no one does those tests anyway. they are not mandated and mass done for you to say that. the IQ thing is often more used by so called right wingers, but it makes no sense because who has done a real recorded iq test? ... a handful of people? ...it cant be used unless it becomes a mandatory recorded thing, like a gcse result. but yeah probably later because gcse results are a bit flawed and probably done too young and not a real indicator themselves which in themselves prove a failure of society to judge intellect.

but either way, another point.. why should we bar people from voting just because we deem them below intelligence? it shouldnt matter, the peoples combined will should form the absolute unified being.... ok what if someone came along and arrested you right now and said your too stupid to be allowed freedom and to make your own decisions so they will arrest you now and make all your decisions for you?

and what does IQ mean? lol
a person with a so called low iq is probably smarter and more respectable than a arrogant egotistical person with a high iq... and either way no one does those tests anyway. they are not mandated and mass done for you to say that. the IQ thing is often more used by so called right wingers, but it makes no sense because who has done a real recorded iq test? ... a handful of people? ...it cant be used unless it becomes a mandatory recorded thing, like a gcse result. but yeah probably later because gcse results are a bit flawed and probably done too young and not a real indicator themselves which in themselves prove a failure of society to judge intellect.

but either way, another point.. why should we bar people from voting just because we deem them below intelligence? it shouldnt matter, the peoples combined will should form the absolute unified being.... ok what if someone came along and arrested you right now and said your too stupid to be allowed freedom and to make your own decisions so they will arrest you now and make all your decisions for you?

Believe it or not, the nationalists are proposing what is called “Sterlingisation”.

This means unofficially using Sterling as the currency. There’s nothing the UK could do to stop this (we could equally use the US dollar or the Indian Rupee).

But it comes with massive disadvantages - no control of the money supply, interest rates being set by what would be a foreign country to us, no lender of last resort to bail us out if there was a financial crisis or another pandemic, and disqualification from joining the EU.

All things which the SNP have acknowledged at one time or another, but they truly can believe six impossible things before breakfast.

in response to a disapeared comment;

scotland has already been told by the uk government it isnt keeping the pound Stirling and would indeed have to make its own currency. so it will at least check list its own currency and bank as its already been told its not having the pound.... i mean it will be seperate and the uk cant risk another entity tied to the pound which could tank the pounds value. so it will have to be cut off if it leaves.... but thats up to the scottish people. we english have always been this way... if you want to go, vote on it, and the peoples will shall be absolute... if you all vote no then dont argue at the english for it as it was your own peoples choice.. we gave you a choice, you all voted no already.

also if you previously said you lived through the brexit referendums i guess that means you are perhaps young? because to me those events didnt happen so far back for me to speak of them historically as a past thing, and so therefore by age and perception by your own logic youd be excluded from votes by your ideas as if brexit was so far back to be so historical and long away for you then it shows lack of life experience to vote in a educated fashion.