Constructive Dismisal

I'll try to point something out that you may not have picked up on - please note it isn't a dig at you, but rather trying to make it clear by being blunt. Apologies in advance.

James said:

Then basically I was showing up every one else which was not my intention and I they told me I was showing off but I just wanted them to like me because I could do stuff

What I read here is that you were getting really into your work which is great, but your colleagues warned you that you were making them look bad, making them have to work harder than they were just to avoid being seen as lazy or incompetent. No wonder they were cursing you under their breath.

I will hazzard a guess that this was not a one time warning from them, so in light of knowing that you were causing collective distress (admittedly to a bunch of lazy oiks by the sound of it) you persisted in your behaviour.

That means you were not being a team player so the team quite rightly wanted you out. Your manager probably gave you ample opportunity to mess up and you duly obliged, so it was all done by the book.

Am I wrong in the assessment?

If the reasons for your dismissal were solid enough then you have no recourse, even if it was a case that they were watching and waiting for you to mess up, which you duly did. With enough solid reasons under their belt, even if you resigned because of the hostile working environment, the chance of claiming constructive dismissal is slim.

NAS86592 is right in my opinion - get some help to get over it. You are hurting yourself and those around yourself (a bit like you did at work) so get professional help who understands autism.

That's it over - sorry for being blunt but I think you need it.

Hey Ian,

Thank you you for your spin on this. When I say I messed up and then told of, is I would be set up.

I am told of for doing something wrong on week which is fine as long as you tell me what is the the right way as I want to do it wright. A week later I will do what I was told and then I get told off again for doing what I was told to do, so I couldn't win. 

I also don't understand you think I should be bad at my job to fit in and not learn?  I am a Mechanical Designer which I taught myself CAD which has been around at least 30 years.  I learnt it 7 years ago but there is so much to learn which I realised that I like teaching myself and was good at it.  The CAD world and what there is to learn in design, CAM, testing, reference drawings. Which leads to communication and then manufacturing. I was in my job to serve my clients as a service so need to be efficient, cost affective because I need to help the individual need to be cost effective to the tax payer. Being bad at my job would lead to bad service and ripping off the tax payer.  My other colleagues would snipe comments all day leave things on my desk like women's tampons between digital measuring devices on my desk when coming back from looking after my wife after she had a hysterectomy. Also constant swearing at me, stalking, online, I recently was driven at in a carpark after walking to my van.  Managers would not let me do training and set me up to fail all the time until I got so good at my job they couldn't catch me out. I started recording when I was told off because I didn't know when it would happen even if I had done all my work.  I recorded when it was about me being told off and not in a meeting of course about regular work.  I did this because I was terrified and they would try and catch me out and I didn't know how to reply.  After doing my latest interview they think my communication was brilliant.  The reason why is because I was there for a reason.

So if you think I was in the wrong for being autistic and shoulder lower myself.  I had been in my job for over 23 years and all the good staff as it were had left.  If I hadn't start teaching myself outside of work I would have been stuck there.  I enjoying because all my life I have been told I am stupid until I broke free of that view of myself.  But you are saying I shouldn't have. Sorry I don't understand.

I'm not saying you should be good at what you do, but from what you say it sounds like you worked in the civil service or public service (the tax payers paying you reference) and this is a role that attracts people who typically just want an easy ride.

I'm saying that in a team dynamic you have to work as part of that team to get on. Is it right - hell no, but it is what is required to work in that environment without winding up the slackers you work alongside.

The situation you report is a common one and one I've been in myself. You want to do the best you can but this highlights the inadequacies of those who work alongside you.

Is it right to make them have to work harder to keep up or be made to look less effective come appraisal time? Sometimes looking at only the big picture is the wrong thing to do when it impacts your ability to work as part of that team.

Ultimately this balance of work effort is something your manager should have been controlling and if they tell you to slow down then your first responsibility is to them, not the taxpayer. This is something lots of us have a problem with due to our strong moral compass, but it will bite you in the ass in the end as you found out.

If I were in your position I would have eased off the effort to fit in with the team and used my energy to focus on something outside of work - take on a project or hobby where I could excell at what I love doing.

I feel your frustration and pain but I'm trying to show you the reality of your situation from the perspective of all involved. Sometimes is is just not worth being the better person.

I'm not saying you should be good at what you do, but from what you say it sounds like you worked in the civil service or public service (the tax payers paying you reference) and this is a role that attracts people who typically just want an easy ride.

I'm saying that in a team dynamic you have to work as part of that team to get on. Is it right - hell no, but it is what is required to work in that environment without winding up the slackers you work alongside.

The situation you report is a common one and one I've been in myself. You want to do the best you can but this highlights the inadequacies of those who work alongside you.

Is it right to make them have to work harder to keep up or be made to look less effective come appraisal time? Sometimes looking at only the big picture is the wrong thing to do when it impacts your ability to work as part of that team.

Ultimately this balance of work effort is something your manager should have been controlling and if they tell you to slow down then your first responsibility is to them, not the taxpayer. This is something lots of us have a problem with due to our strong moral compass, but it will bite you in the ass in the end as you found out.

If I were in your position I would have eased off the effort to fit in with the team and used my energy to focus on something outside of work - take on a project or hobby where I could excell at what I love doing.

I feel your frustration and pain but I'm trying to show you the reality of your situation from the perspective of all involved. Sometimes is is just not worth being the better person.

Ok, thank you for taking the time to reply, I appreciate it.