Politics: Do you guys find it hard to find a reason to vote anymore or is it just me.

I use to be a brittish conservative just so the yanks on here don't get confused but now I don't vote at all. I'm not even sure politics makes sense to me and see it more as a modern day religion or cult. When you watch people debate in parliament you have to question why do we allow these people to run the country at times. But voting genuinely seems pointless and doesn't seem to mean anything to me personally. Just find it odd how people get so wrild up about or defensive about if politics is like there life or something it's kind of sad really cause SDK yourself what do the government do for you besides raise taxes and make life more difuclt. By that I mean they claim to give us a pay rise then the next year they increase taxes which completely defetes the objective of a pay raise as even if your pay does increase by a small amount if taxes rise then your money still doesn't go far due to tax inflation canceling it out. It's as if they take us for fools. 

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  • I'm a Labour party member. I want the self serving,intellectually and morally bankrupt, Tories out of power asap. Quite a few party members are calling for Labour  to make PR part of their manifesto. That would be a tactical mistake. The Tories, and the pro Tory media , would  ram home time and time again ' Labour too weak to govern on their own' . I'd rather they adopted PR from a position of strength, after winning the next election.

  • The problem is that if they gain power without pushing for PR, they'll say they have no mandate to overhaul the system. And the fear that any move he makes is a potential tactical advantage for the tories means he currently stands for nothing aside from not being a Conservative. He's entirely banking on winning by the unpopularity of the other side rather than giving a real positive vision people can believe in. And that will almost certainly work this time, but we need actual change to try to undo the damage of the last decade and Starmer has no interest in that. 

  • It's completely wrong to say that Starmer has no interest in undoing the damage. It's the kind of thing the Corbynite cranks on Twitter come out with. There's what needs to be done to win an election, and what can be done after an election is won. Much of the 1st term,presuming the election is won, will involve fixing the economic damage  that was  caused by Tory incompetence.  A second term in office will depend on how well the electorate think they've done that job.

  • Is Labour close to perfect? No. Is it better than the Tories? Yes.  Does Starmer need to be cautious?  Yes. Is he being too cautious? I've gone from a solid 'no' on that one to ' It's debatable'. I want the 'left' to stay in the party and present a politically intelligent and sensible case  for more socialism. I have no time for the pseudo- socialists who are quite happy to enable the Tories.

    Like it or not but the left's best chance of being more influential is not as a perpetual protest group, but within an elected Labour government. Palestine? The trans issue?  Not on the political radar of the average swing voter needed to win elections. That average, swing voter wants help with 'bread and butter' issues that adversely affect his/her/their  family's life.

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