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Clowns to the left of me! Jokers to the right! Here I am stuck in the middle with the sane people!

There is a world  of difference between a party and an individual member of a party. The Labour Party has never called the entire North uneducated racist scum. 

Sorry, I just wanted to remind you of a basic etiquette tip in a debate. It's usual to present your views, beliefs and opinions as just that:

my argument is...
my view is... it's my view that/in my view
my belief is...
my opinion is..../in my opinion

It's not done to present your views/opinions as facts even if you can find others who share them. 

Nexus11 said:

Brexit, which is doing very little to benefit anyone (ask small businesses, ask the fishermen)

Brexit, which in my opinion/in my view is bringing very little benefit to anyone... (ask the... provide a link to someone's experience, or some analysis).

But remember, there are facts and statistics that can be used to support any claim. Everything in the universe is in constant flux and we can't know anything with any certainty. Not even whether Brexit will be good or bad for the future of the UK. 

Are you a fact denier Mykal? 

Without seeing the post, I can't judge it for myself. My only suggestion to you would be to type out your comments before posting them and give yourself a little space to read them yourself to see if they accurately reflect what you want to say or whether they are just angry reactions. 

In your opinion.

That was one of the worst pieces of political news of my life, that referendum. In which I didn't even have the vote. Before Hungary, where I live, joined the EU I was third-country alien, just another of them dodgy economic migrants, Immigration was a nightmare.

Why would a country choose to give up all those rights. To lube and work in 27 other countries. Why such dog-in-the-manger narrowness and I tolerance?

Luckily I got dual citizenship. For the time being. 

I have experienced plenty of the belittling and name calling of Brexiters since then, and have wondered at the bitterness behind it. You can't reason with them. Just as you can't for example with Trumpists, who gaslight their hideous causes here, there, everywhere. 

Murdoch has been known to I stigmate smear cpsogns against any politician who might be seen as a real threat against the current order.... 

Something to do with the way the votes are counted, duh....

Very democratic

So the trickle down effect is an unimpeachable article of faith up there with the Ten commandments is it?

Only trouble is, I don't see much of this trickling down, actually trickling down. Do you? Truly? 

I've noticed that too!

Oh, do the math. Really do it. All this doodoo about no magic money trees is smoke and mirrors, and you know it. Perhaps the super rich need to forego that extra champers and chablis and put just that little more into the kitty

It does not matter who you vote for, the government always gets in...

It wasn't the left that stopped Brexit for five years, it was MPs on all sides who objected to it, including the conservatives. One major reason of the objections was the unsolvable Northern Ireland border issue. We are joined to Europe, physically as well as through thousands of years of trade and easy migration.

Corbyn was anti-EU himself, on the left and backed the majority of  Labour MPs against leaving. But many conservative MPs also back remaining as of course did Boris till he suddenly changed his mind seeing the possibility of becoming PM. He didn't swap side for your sake, it was all about him.

Despite my working class background I travelled around and lived in Europe, my daughter was born in Denmark I did think of studying in Spain but decided to remain in the UK and finish my degree in Bournemouth. 

I looked forward to retiring in Europe I did have a crumbling ruin in Bulgaria for a time but had to come back to sort out finances and stayed. I bought a house in Bulgaria with land and endless outhouses for 7500 quid, I could have lived very well there, the neighbours were friendly, very very helpful, despite me not speaking any Bulgarian. 

I really have no idea what the problem was being in Europe. My dad fought for peace in Europe, he was working class Express reading conservative voter, he sent me to do a French exchange when I was 15 and encouraged me and my brother to go on holiday with a tent the next year. 

The working class then had aspirations, the working class was mobile. My grandmother moved from Worcester to Gloucester to work as a cook around 1900, my grandparents on the other side were from Peaky Blinders area in Brum, they were hardly posh but they moved out of Brum to the countryside for a better life, for them and their kids.

I have eaten avocados, I am a retired hippy, I am not a millenial snowflake I am a baby booming snowflake, I prefer sandals to boots I am sensitive to other people's needs and do know trans people etc but I am a real person I do object to your generalisations.

Generalisations can be used to demonise the other side. It's not nice. It's name calling and it's rude. I may be on the other side of the fence but I am a human being I am also autistic and lots of other things.

When it comes to politics I am mostly in agreement with Labour, but not always. I have a lot of disagreements with the Conservative party. I agree with most of the Green policies but with first past the post they'll never get in. But I am a person, with likes and dislikes, my own sense of right and wrong. I am not a party.

The conservatives are actually outnumbered by the other parties, if the other parties would get over their egos we could have Boris out at the next election. I do hope we do see this miracle.

probably. He taught me so much i would love to just say "Thanks" to him

When i hear his voice i stop and listen

i almost thought that would be the alan watts video lol i think there was a alan watts version of the art of doing nothing.

so you know about "The Art of Doing Nothing"?   The Tao Version 

www.youtube.com/watch

i would make mistakes if i did something i suppose lol
ah theres the morals of doing nothing, if you do nothing you neither do good nor bad.

I'll take your word on that ,,,,, but of course they dont get it right all the time 

Big organisations do make mistakes. Do you make mistakes ?

they are good at being in the middle on party politics.... but on brexit they was biased in favour of the EU so much that they got fined a few times i think by a official watchdog on media bias.