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I learned a hard lesson in the 1980's.

If you don't produce anything, you cannot have anything unless you steal or sell off the family silver.

I watched the U.K. in the 1980's import a vast horde of "new people", who in turn swiftly established their own economy and laws to govern themselves, rather than "integrating" as we were led to expect. I have made friends in that society, which is how I know, and have observed that process up close, whereas most of the people who scream "RAYCIIIS" at me are kept as far from the knowledge as possible. (They are after all the screaming type and might object, so they are kept busy screaming elsewhere)

The one good thing about being "marginalised from birth" is that one becomes adept at simply observing and keeping ones mouth shut for most of the time.

IN the later eighties and early nineties we did indeed sell off the family silver, being raw materials and then the means of production, but we kept out currency artifiicially high. This eventually meant that pretty much anyone could come here and in a few short years of hard work earn enough to go home and buy themselves a decent "stake" in their lives, whilst significantly undercutting the natives (us!) 

This has had a knock on effect where for U.K. born people the competition, which IS fuelled by grants, and a slanted "benefits system" which favours those who it perceives to be "disadvantaged" over those who need to have their forms lost at every turn or their claims denied..

For the indigenous people portrayed as dumb racists at every turn in the media, who's systems which their forefathers paid for in blood suddenly started working in the favour of the visitors rather than themselves, double-think and cognitive dissonance was to become the new normal. 

It took me a long time to realise that there is a reason things panned out this way, the very breadth & sophistication of the attack on U.K. sovereignty, (a test run for what is underway in the U.S. right now) and remorseless unity of purpose became apparent to me a long time ago. 

To even speak of my observations is of course now considered hate speech. I don't know why, when I say "I saw the rain come down" or "step away from that ledge or you will fall" those observations are O.K. but when I observe what has clearly been done to the social and political life of the U.K. during a half century of passive observation, that's held to be wrong! 

SO WRONG IN FACT, that a couple of years ago, both my partner and my child deemed my political conversation to be "unacceptable", to the extent that it would threaten the security of my relationships if I persisted in using my speech for expressing my thoughts and opinions.

Now THAT made me sit up and take notice I can tell you. 

Well to be honest, I don't value my opinions anywhere like as much as I value my home life, so it was a very easy & quick adjustment to make, but when did external matters like Brexit or Donald Trump become more important than family to the normal people? And how was that achieved? 

For those who have observed similar events and would like the answers Vince Packard wrote some excellent books on the subject. I always recommend "The Hidden Persuaders" as an excellent primer to how mass mind manipulation is achieved by single digit numbers of people all the time, and constantly. Until that stuff is brought into the light and dealt with as it should be, you will all be unknowing prey for these people.  

For the rest of you trapped in the simplistic left/right party paradigms displayed all over this thread where your energies are wasted flailing away at each other than the real problems, a few of you need to be reminded that you have no business attacking the person promulgamating the beliefs you find abhorrent, and indeed you'll just spin your wheels, as was intended by those who set up that left/right paradigm in the beginning. 

Try NOT to take all of this too seriously. There isn't much such a disorganised group such as ourselves can do, except try and face it all with good grace..

I'm trying to find a link to the information published last year - but magically, no matter what I search in google, it only gives me UK covid stuff.

Well no I don't know it's a lie, you obviously do seem to think so

Seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udqrpYbArCI

Well know I don't know.

They insulate their houses and cars properly is what I heard.

Claps.... 

de gauls words were that it wasnt worth us joining because we got our food cheaper from the commonwealth thus it didnt make sense as by joining the EU wed cut off all our cheap food and make the cost of living massive and economically ruin the UK by joining the EU.... those were his words... and they came true.... sadly the french guy was smarter on the running of britain than our rulers at the time was. he was a great man, our ancestors should have listened to him...

mismanagement, tony blair ruined the nhs and half privatized it and ever since the nhs have been mismanaging money and wasting great sums of money to skiff off to their private managers who steal it all.

also scandanavian countries have less population and thus less people to use the services. more people using services means much higher cost of the service.... you cannot run a health service for 60 million people plus with silly ideology the expectancy to be the worlds hospital and treat all 8 billion humans on the planet for free and compare it to the cost of a countrys health service that only runs it for 1 million people lol

That's actually a lie.    And you know it.    Since benefiting from so much enrichment via the EU, the Scandinavian countries have no money left to even heat their old people's homes.

Ah yes, the magic money tree and the Real World.

If this is the way it is, how come there are countries that successfully do use taxes to fund education, housing, welfare and health services? Most Scandinavian countries seem to be quietly be able to do it without generating vast national debts. They can make it work Why can't the UK? 

....the last resort of the dogmatic is to insult and deflect.

near wigan, north west.

Where in the north are you from, Caelus?

As far as I know De Gaulle blackballed UK membership in the 60's because he didn't think the British had enough of a team spirit to join and were too proud a people.... not proud in a good way I don't think, they still wanted their dreams of Empire. 

Nexus11 said:

And didn't nurses just get a measly 1 percent pay rise recently? How is that supporting the NHS? Ah yes, but they got a lovely clap instead during Vovid

Where do you think the money comes from?

And my experience is that Tory liars don't care for facts, they prefer fantasy that feeds their nationalist and xenophobic narcissism.

British Dunkirk spirit, making do, sticking together. Well I wonder how this saga will unfold with Scotland and Ireland yet....

What about the fishermen, the fruit growers, even Mr Wetherspoons himself, who can no longer find enough British Labour to keep his wonderful British pubs open because there are no more Europeans to work in them.

And didn't nurses just get a measly 1 percent pay rise recently? How is that supporting the NHS? Ah yes, but they got a lovely clap instead during Vovid

You really ought to look into funding problems.

All local councils are broke.    They are at the mercy of developers to give them cash every year just to pay for the increasing maintenance liabilities built since WW2.

Every new development adds more liabilities which will come home to roost in about 20 years.    Councils provide 'services' with a few quid left over.

There is NO MONEY to build council houses.     

The NHS is deliberately badly run and is financially out of control - always has been..

The left try to blame the government for the NHS but it was them that saddled each trust with Billions of debt which could never be repaid.

And I'm afraid that you simply have no idea about taxation - the usual child-like 'soak the rich' ideology without a clue about how finances work.    It's an annoying shame that a vast chunk of the population are so blind to the reality of the world and are so entrenched in 1960s dogma.

how was the NHS thing a lie when they actually did increase the NHS budget even more so than they promise, more so than labour promise and it was the historical highest NHS increase in the history of the NHS? .... but labour liars dont care for facts, they keep harping on about imagined made up nonsense and lies and repeat lies while ignoring whats actually happened as they dont even read the budgets they just open their mouths with lies.

britain wasnt benefiting from membership of the EU.... we was indeed sold a dud by being in it too.... infact charles de gaul himself said we was stupid to join and there is no benefit for us for we got all our food much cheaper from the commonwealth than what we could from the EU and by joining the EU wed just be making our food cost and cost of living much higher.... we was sold a dud when we joined the EU.... even the french told us that... but our gov wanted to join and our corpos wanted it too and the lying global elite wanted it and didnt care for the livelyhood of the british people they just wanted to progress a united one world government as fast as possible.... but ya know what? the EU isnt needed for that no longer... china will likely achieve that now before anyone else.

If I were religious, this would be my prayer:

God grant me the serenity to accept and avoid dogmatic people, the courage to not waste my time and energy on them when there are other people who need my time and energy, and the wisdom to know that I can't cut through social and political conditioning. Amen.

And with this, I wish you a very good day and wish us many other happy conversations on topics not related to politics.