for all people suffering ,,,,,stop blaming others,,,,,,, zen

I don't know that I agree. You can't fix a problem until you really know what a problem is. And sometimes there is a moment when after years of trying so many different things you realise you are not the problem. The situation you find yourself in is not merely indifferent to your aspirations it actively opposes them. And then you start quoting hamlet "To be, or not to be? That is the question. Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and, by opposing, end them?" Because if others really are to blame you have a choice, you can sit in a little pity party and give up trying to fix the broken things that frustrate you so. Or you can choose the path of conflict and 'take arms against a sea of troubles.' Maybe the real criticism we should have of ourselves as autistic people is not that we blame others for limiting our opportunities but that we've been too conflict adverse when they do.

Zen teaches u that the solution is within you at all times its never anywhere else !

Zen says, everyone is pure and good,,  you just have to remove/quiet/see through the bad thoughts  and thinking ( imposed by society etc, and created by your own mind "the ego" ) to return to the real you

to people who say "take up arms", I say you go ahead, you do it.

But dont use, or encourage,  the vulnerable, or anyone i know,  to do it for you

Zen says ---- your views are allowed you are just on the wrong path 

Zen just gave me a headache, lol,,, it is so difficult,   coming from a background/upbringing of pure violence to that of pure peace with life and the universe  ( equanimity )

Well I come from a christian tradition so take a different view. As we like to remind people if you ask what would Jesus do remember chasing you with a whip is on the list of options. You don't have to hate people to seek conflict with them, just to recognise there is a situation that won't be resolved without conflict. Passive self sacrifice is noble, if it serves some higher purpose or is protecting someone. If it's merely a means of escaping conflict for an easy life then its ultimately self serving.

Yes, but did any of these people who are so quick to judge (on whatever it may be) ever had to endure what the people their judging on had to? I do believe in walking a mile in someone else's shoes before making a judgement on them.

I am,,,  and have been doing so over 2 years now ---  someday i will understand it. Just been chatting with a Zen Master today  hes given me some guidance in return for some of my services - a zen trade 

You have to read and absorb those teachings first before you can follow them, and whether kids got exposed to Christianity or not was a decision devolved to the public back in the seventies. Seemed like a more utilitarian system of basic human training for the kids than "drag queen story time" or "call of duty" if you ask me, but I am old, we are known for getting things wrong... Or at least that's what all the media has been telling me all my life about old people. IS it any wonder peopel are so confused these days?

aidie,

We'll stay scientific, we won't jumble science and religion together.

According to science the conscience is above the subconscience. The first 6-7 years of our life we did not have enough capacity to have a conscience so we lived by theta (hypnosis). As children we just watched and observed our families and communities, we were taught so much by parents and that became our subconscience.

95% of the time people are living in their subconscious doing things unconsciously to be a functional member of a particular group. They don't exercise their conscience which is why they don't know what they're doing. Ask them a question about their behaviour and they'll have to exercise their conscience and then they will describe their behaviour as bad or refuse to believe what they were doing.

People replace what's in the subconscious by repetition, people repetitively go on Facebook, after so long it became a habit because of repetition that they now do it without thinking. The things people find difficult are things that do not support what's in the subconscience, that's why they have to exercise the conscience because it opposes the subconscience.  

So the subconscience is like a prison, psychologist William James taught "Thoughts become perception, perception becomes reality." 

That's why people have to drop their perceptions that they were programmed to believe if they want to live in actual reality. When we were first born we were full of love, joy and inspiration, our natural state. Unfortunately we became blinded from all that joy by the illusions we observed from our families and communities, like some say we can only be happy if we're rich, an illusion.

Peter said:

aidie said:

Temple Grandin " you cant use autism as an excuse "

Of the little I've heard of her work I can't say I'm a fan. This is the woman who said, I believe, the more severe forms of autism should be eradicated while the mild left to survive. Sounds to me likes she's confusing the severity of autism with the severity of intellectual disability. It's posable to be very severally autistic and of average or above IQ. I'm not sure she understands this ... if she does then as far as I'm concerned what she advocates is barbaric.

Recalling, remembering or considering anew that allistic people are more subjective or idealistic in their way of thinking, and that autistic people are more objective or realistic in theirs ~ which Temple Grandin has written and talked about quite extensively, as being then the context for the following statement:

“In an ideal world the scientist should find a method to prevent the most severe forms of autism but allow the milder forms to survive. After all, the really social people did not invent the first stone spear. It was probably invented by an Aspie who chipped away at rocks while the other people socialized around the campfire. Without autism traits we might still be living in caves.”

So therefore Grandin advocates that in the ‘real’ world all neurological typologies need to work together to build a better sociological and ecological environment, rather than to cure or eradicate autism as a neurological divergence.

This she described at a 2010 Technology Entertainment and Design (TED) talk as follows, with the issue you brought up being addressed at 16 minutes and 18 seconds:

Do you know how some days you can get up full of beans and set out into your day, only to be dogged by failure or thwarted at every turn? That happens to me sometimes and the frustration can be quite unmanageable.

An explanation that works for me is that there is a "thwarting demon" who sits behind a control panel full of levers and dials and it's his job to pick up the next docket and put his full attention onto the victim thus indicated. Some days it's me..

When I detect his work, and he is on a good day, I know that nothing I start will work out for me until he gets bored, so there is little point in working for myself. I used to go sleep it off for as long as it took to wake up and find that simple things work for me again, but  found I was doing an awful lot of sleeping at one point...

Then I discovered the mantra that saved my sanity. "If you can't help yourself, see if you can help some other f***er instead!". (Or at the very least go and play with the cat!)

It's not altruistic, I'm not virtue signalling here, just passing on a survival tip.. 

thanks  

We are all in this together, my friend. 

thanks for the encouragement. I will. I can already see how misguided so many people are and II'm not even on the first rung of the Zen ladder

aidie said:

He's been doing it for days now against me lol  but being Zen I forgive him 

his karma will be messed up big time lol

Perhaps work on your Zen a little more Aidie. 

aidie said:

He's been doing it for days now against me lol  but being Zen I forgive him 

his karma will be messed up big time lol

Perhaps work on your Zen a little more Aidie. 

Do you know how some days you can get up full of beans and set out into your day, only to be dogged by failure or thwarted at every turn? That happens to me sometimes and the frustration can be quite unmanageable.

An explanation that works for me is that there is a "thwarting demon" who sits behind a control panel full of levers and dials and it's his job to pick up the next docket and put his full attention onto the victim thus indicated. Some days it's me..

When I detect his work, and he is on a good day, I know that nothing I start will work out for me until he gets bored, so there is little point in working for myself. I used to go sleep it off for as long as it took to wake up and find that simple things work for me again, but  found I was doing an awful lot of sleeping at one point...

Then I discovered the mantra that saved my sanity. "If you can't help yourself, see if you can help some other f***er instead!". (Or at the very least go and play with the cat!)

It's not altruistic, I'm not virtue signalling here, just passing on a survival tip.. 

thanks  

We are all in this together, my friend. 

thanks for the encouragement. I will. I can already see how misguided so many people are and II'm not even on the first rung of the Zen ladder