Justice suicide or what else?

Hi Dave

From your writings, I've never once seen a logical path for your suicide.      You're luckier than most, you have resources and stability around you - and you are the only one who cares about your cockup from many years ago.    You are not penniless or destitute - you have a home and family.   

You're a clever guy - so you have options.

Your suicide would be the most illogical one ever - in my opinion.

I can understand your depression - to a point - but you have so many viable options in front of you that I'm still not getting why you are trying so hard to put  "I told you so" on your gravestone.

Do you *really* want to die or do you just want sympathy and attention?

Are you really just embarrassed by your loss of good standing?

Does that *really* qualify for something as permanent as suicide?

We talk a different language. Our logic is different. Why do some choose a walk and others to eat. Suicidal,ideation and questioning our reasons for living and the police reasons for their actions?  The USA case ... will it be murder, 

1. I know what I saw and what I did. I think the police prosecuted me to frighten others and to try and make money from me. They didn’t care the fact they nearly killed me in doing so
2. i cant seem to let go and it is destroying me an d my family 

DaveAsperg said:

questioning our reasons for living and the police reasons for their actions?

You chose to tangle with the big boys so an example was made of you to teach everyone else a lesson - a very obvious outcome.     The magnitude of the repercussions has to be great enough to frighten people - I assume you've read "The Art Of War".

The intention is for you to learn your lesson well - but you are still welcome to play the game.  You can still invest or play on the stock market - it's a gentleman's game.      If you were a gangster, you might have lost a few fingers to teach you a lesson.

The lesson is take it on the chin, straighten up and fly right - and don't transgress again.

You don't seem to understand that.     You're still grubbing around in the "It's so unfair" mindset.      

Ah I take it the courts, lawyers and your debtors are coming for their pound of flesh? Actually here the law may serve you better. The courts know there is no point trying to get blood out of a stone (finically) and if debt collectors are going to the point of harassing you or worsening your mental health with their persistence you may have a good legal argument for them to back off and give you time to get your finances together as form of a reasonable adjustment. #notlegaladvice 

Maybe speak to a debt counciling charity or the like? see what they can advise.

What specifically are they doing to push you into it Dave?

I definitely do not want suicide but feel I am being pushed in to it by the law and a big bank

DaveAsperg said:

I don’t feel suicide is a personal choice . There is a view that it happens when psychological distress and hopelessness reaches a certain point. And we on the autistic spectrum get distressed about this and stuck with our thoughts much more than neurotypicals, so our survival is not good.

DaveAsperg, suicidal intentions are though a personal choice ~ with intentions being plans of and for action, with it being suicidal ideations that tend to be compulsive or invasive as they arise from socially fostered and personally adopted behaviourisms during preadolescence and adolescence, due to one or more series of traumatic disassociations.

The basic issue for autistic people during childhood and on through adulthood is in part all-and-nothing 'black and white' thinking ~ due to the other part being rather a lack of individual facilitation, identification or affirmation in society developmentally, in that the allistic emphasis is on being characteristically allistic rather than autistic ~ hence social camouflaging and personal masking to hide being autistic, and the suicidal ideation and intention thing about no longer being autistic.

I trust like myself that you have pledged not to invest in or follow through with any suicidal intentions?

DaveAsperg said:

I don’t feel suicide is a personal choice . There is a view that it happens when psychological distress and hopelessness reaches a certain point. And we on the autistic spectrum get distressed about this and stuck with our thoughts much more than neurotypicals, so our survival is not good.

DaveAsperg, suicidal intentions are though a personal choice ~ with intentions being plans of and for action, with it being suicidal ideations that tend to be compulsive or invasive as they arise from socially fostered and personally adopted behaviourisms during preadolescence and adolescence, due to one or more series of traumatic disassociations.

The basic issue for autistic people during childhood and on through adulthood is in part all-and-nothing 'black and white' thinking ~ due to the other part being rather a lack of individual facilitation, identification or affirmation in society developmentally, in that the allistic emphasis is on being characteristically allistic rather than autistic ~ hence social camouflaging and personal masking to hide being autistic, and the suicidal ideation and intention thing about no longer being autistic.

I trust like myself that you have pledged not to invest in or follow through with any suicidal intentions?

Ah I take it the courts, lawyers and your debtors are coming for their pound of flesh? Actually here the law may serve you better. The courts know there is no point trying to get blood out of a stone (finically) and if debt collectors are going to the point of harassing you or worsening your mental health with their persistence you may have a good legal argument for them to back off and give you time to get your finances together as form of a reasonable adjustment. #notlegaladvice 

Maybe speak to a debt counciling charity or the like? see what they can advise.

What specifically are they doing to push you into it Dave?

I definitely do not want suicide but feel I am being pushed in to it by the law and a big bank