Undergoing assessment, really struggling

Hello everyone, I am currently undergoing the assessment process for ASD. This came about because I was referred to Mental Health Services for Depression and Anxiety, had issues with this all my life and had some kind of breakdown about a year ago. I began therapy with a psychologist and work with an Occupational Therapist to work on exposure therapy for anxieties. I've found the sessions with the psychologist really confusing due to communication/interaction issues (this has been a problem for me as long as I can remember). The OT asked me in one session if they could do some tests as she was picking up on some things and mentioned Autism in the conversation. Interestingly, just about a week earlier I started googling things I have difficulty with and it was often within information regarding Asperger's, up until that point it never entered my mind. I've had what seems like a very common feature of being aware I was different somehow from other people around me and have felt that way as long as I can remember. I did a questionnaire and scored high but didn't think much of it, so wrote down the  name of the test and the result. I kept it in my notebook that I took to appointments and when the OT mentioned this I told her about the test and gave her the information from it.

I have done 3 questionnaires now with the OT over a couple of weeks and I am getting to the point where I just can't take any more. I don't know what the scores have been. They told me I will now have an indefinite wait for an interview next with the OT and another person and then all the information will be discussed at a meeting with  psychiatrist and other professionals to decide on diagnosis. They said there is a waiting list and not sure how long, could a month or longer.

I have sensory overload issues but to complicate the picture these have been most troublesome since I became ill around 20 years ago so not sure if connected. My brain feels like an incessant machine for processing information to the point I just shut down and literally have to close myself off from the world. My major difficulty is with contradictions eg things have to be one or the other, I really struggle with ambiguity and uncertainly so if I can't read a situation or a person ie what they're saying or what the meaning is of what they're saying my brain doesn't stop going over things until it can make sense of it. Trouble is, I can't make sense of a lot of it so are always in this vicious cycle. I have said to my OT several times I wish I didn't have to speak, I wish I was a mute, things would be so much easier. I have a lot of difficulty verbalising how I feel and have to write a lot of things down and communicate this to OT/psychologist. It confuses me how I can put things down in words but struggle verbally.

And this brings me to my question. I am considering withdrawing from the process for the following reasons: Is it usual to have this wait between the questionnaires and the interview? The process itself is causing a lot of distress to the point I can't even keep my routine together, that's just completely breaking down. If I don't have ASD then what does that mean and I don't think I could cope with that. The very nature of ASD causes even more confusion for my brain as it just can't make sense of it all, it just seems like more contradiction and confusion. For example, can you have difficulty with change but still like to explore, can you have been hypersensitive for part of your life then hypersensitive later? Also, there is a lot I've mimicked over the years and learned (I am a 49 year old female)  but always feel I'm putting on an act and that makes me feel like a fraud and a liar, do other people feel this way? I think its the way my brain interprets things in that to me 'pretending' is a lie, I always worry that sounds mad but I don;t know how else to say it.

My life has been full of stops and starts (bit of a disaster really) and I've never quite reached what I was trying to achieve, for me, that was a 'normal' life. I have one friend who, if it weren't for them I would not be here, In fact I feel I cannot manage without them. They act like an interpreter for me trying to help me make sense of things. I have no doubt I would be locked in my house constantly and never speak to anyone if I didn't have this help.

I joined a mental health forum a some time ago but have never been able to post on there, regardless of my diagnosis, I feel I could do that here and not fear any malice.

I have read several posts and a lot resonates with my situation, although I do have a complex traumatic past which I think can make things even more difficult to untangle.

Very best wishes to everyone and any replies will be appreciated.

Thank you.

  • Yes, I find that sensory overload and speech problems often go hand in hand. When I'm very burned out or overwhelmed, my ability to find words can desert me completely, and I can find it just as difficult to understand what other people are saying. At less stressful times, although I'm not as fluent as most people, I can generally get by so long as no-one is talking about emotions or relationships. Conversation in groups are usually the worst; everyone else's words get mushed together, and I can't tell who said what, which makes me completely unable to find something to say very often.

    The other problem is that I can make it seem that I'm more fluent than I really am by just parroting phrases that I have learned to be socially acceptable. I'll say something just because I know I'm expected to, and need to do it faster than my brain can process. To the other person, I seem to have answered OK, but in reality I haven't actually expressed anything much about myself or my opinions, nor asserted my needs, I've just said something very vague and non-committal that satisfies the other person's need for a reply from my little store of stock phrases.

  • Your paragraph about the sensory difficulties resonates what my OT said, I've just never known anyone with Asperger's/Autism except for one or two people who have been at the severe end of the spectrum who have not been able to communicate at all verbally so I was a bit stunned to hear her mention that, It is a very complex condition to understand but I feel that might get easier with replies like this and reading of other people's experience on the forum. Thank you 

  • ??? Why are you being horrible to me?    

    Are you sure it's not BPD you have? 

  • Welcome to the forum.

    I won't repeat what others have said so well already, but I thought I'd just quickly address a couple of other points that haven't been mentioned yet.

    Firstly, the experience of struggling with therapy is very common for autistic people. Therapy relies on being able to talk openly about our feelings, and this is something that an awful lot of autistic people struggle with. Because we struggle to understand the emotions of people around us, we don't have much to measure our own emotions by - it's not that we don't have them, in fact, they can be overwhelmingly powerful, but it can be very hard to find common language with other people so that we can talk about them. Unfortunately, many therapists make the mistake of reading this as repression, delusion, or simply lack of commitment to the therapy. It can help a great deal to know that this is the case, so that therapy can be guided towards helping with emotional expression before trying to tackle any deeper issues that otherwise are impossible to talk about.

    Sensory sensitivities, and all other autistic traits, can and do change, either slowly over time as we develop coping techniques, or between different situations; this can depend on all sorts of factors, such as stress/anxiety, illness, what company we keep, fear of change, etc. So try not to worry that your traits seem very variable, or even paradoxical; that is perfectly normal, and something we all experience.

    As for your assessment; I would say that the biggest reason to go forward is one that you've already mentioned - the difficulty of dealing with ambiguity. Although the assessment process can be very frustrating and stressful, if you walk away, you're quite likely to find yourself getting into circular thinking about whether you are autistic or not in the future. From what you've said so far, it sounds like a diagnosis should be quite likely - as you've seen from the other posters, all of the traits that you've mentioned are ones that most of us here experience, and my life-story and eventual diagnosis have very much the same patterns as yours.

    Best wishes.

  • Thank you so much, great replies 

  • Thank you so much for that

  • I don't know what to make of that but you just made me feel sick so thanks....

  • First of all I just want to say that I understand your distress and really feel for you. It's a horrible and confusing situation to be in. There are often several different parts to an ASD assessment and they can take place some time apart. The interview with the OT and another person could be an observed session called ADOS-2 where they identify and record specific indicators that someone is autistic. Perhaps you could ask them to clarify this for you.

    Many women only get diagnosed with ASD when they are in their 40s or 50s. The recognition that they are autistic often only comes after years of struggling with anxiety, depression, relationships and work. They have frequently acquired other diagnostic labels because their autism was not diagnosed - Depression, Generalised Anxiety Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, Personality Disorder.

    As you are finding the assessment process itself can create additional confusion and distress. The clinicians may understand what they are doing and why but sometimes this is not communicated to us clearly enough.

    Talking about a complex and traumatic past can trigger difficult feelings - can you tell them that you are anxious about this and need support? As far as all the contradictions go that seems to be quite typical, especially where we have been doing our best to fit in and wearing a mask for such a long time.

    It's entirely understandable that you are questioning whether or not to continue the process. Having no clear timescale makes it much worse. I had the same thought myself at one point. It's hard to comment on whether or not an ASD diagnosis would be good or bad for you. I am trying to get one because I believe my anxiety and depression are the result of trying to fit into a neurotypical world. I also believe ASD explains my work history and relationship problems.

    Other people who have already been diagnosed have pointed out that professional support afterwards can be limited. However many people find it hugely helpful to know that they are autistic and feel much more calm and in control of their lives. Many of us find talking to other autistic people on this forum the most helpful form of support. As someone else said recently autism feels a lot different from the inside then it looks like from the outside.

    I've got a complicated and tangled up past with really distressing stuff in it too. I'm in my late 50s and I feel like I'm finally starting to make sense of everything. It is important to have support around you in order to cope with this. I have been getting such a lot of encouragement, advice and reassurance from the lovely people in this community.

    if you don't get an ASD diagnosis you could still be autistic it just means the criteria agreed in DSM-5 haven't been met. Or it could be that you have a similar but different condition. Whatever the outcome, the assessment process should give you and the clinicians a clearer understanding of the difficulties you are experiencing and potential solutions.

    Wishing you all the very best.

  • ..and the 'act' is the act of trying to be normal when you feel anything but...things just never come out right...

  • Hello,

    I’d definately say don5 give up on the process. I’ve just been diagnosed myself after a long wait and feeling very much like you do. For me it has been a massive relief, just because I now know what’s been causing me so many problems. In my own head I’m not a defective ‘normal’ person anymore, I’m an OK Aspie! Although of course all the issues don’t suddenly go away, at least they all make some sort of sense now.

    It is massively difficult to deal with all the uncertainty around waits I know. Dealing with uncertain waiting times for any sort of mental health support over the last few years has regularly made my head want to explode too and I understand the temptation to jack it all in. I think i could have handled waits better if they could just have given me a definately timeline. It’s the uncertainty that’s a nightmare. To be honest they really ought to know that’s going to be a massive issue for anyone on the spectrum!

    It does sound to me like a lot of your problems really might be due to being on the autism spectrum though, So id say hang in there if you can. See if they can give you an idea of what the wait will least. That might help a bit? Usually I got some sort of fairly helpful reply to that question in the end. I think maybe eventually people thought it was easier to answer than hear my voice!

    best of luck with it all, I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. 

  • Thanks for the reply and sharing this with me, I will take a look at the book, it is good to know other people can find the process itself very difficult.

  • Hi, NAS49761,

    I can relate to a lot of what you're saying here, I'm 52 years old and currently waiting for a reply to the questionnaires I've sent in for assessment for Asperger's syndrome. I was also seeing a Wellbeing counsellor because of anxiety and depression, but she is still in training and unable to help me with my social anxiety just yet, so after the initial session I'm back on the waiting list.

    Like you, I've felt like withdrawing from the whole process, because I'm finding it really stressful not knowing how long it will take, and trying to keep it all together in the meantime. But I really want to know whether I have autism or not, and I can't bear the thought of breaking off and having to start over at a later date. I'm reading a book called "Very late Diagnosis of Asperger Syndrome" by Philip Wylie, which I would really recommend. It is helping me to understand the feelings I'm having right now, and what I might expect to feel later if diagnosed. I'm also reading any book I can find which has something positive to say about autism, for example, "Uniquely Human" by Dr Barry Prizant, which is aimed more at caregivers and parents, but still worth a read.

    I suppose if it turns out I don't have Asperger's syndrome after all this preparation will have been in vain, and I don't know where I would go from there, but I'm just doing having to do what I can for now. Maybe there will be someone else here who has been through that and could advise both of us.

    Best wishes.

  • I've just noticed a mistake, it should read can you have been 'hyposensitive' for part of your life then 'hypersensitive' later.

  • Don't give up the process just try and let yourself go with the flow