University student accommodation

I wanted to create this thread to address an issue I feel is too often overlooked when young people on the spectrum go to university - residential accommodation.

I'll open it with an explanation, and build it up with additional postings. Feel free to contribute, especially with accounts of actual experiences. A picture of student accommodation for people on the spectrum would be most helpful.

The NAS website has a section on Higher Education but barely touches on this important issue. It is under "working with people with autism" -"education" -  "educational professionals in further and higher education" - "education - meeting the needs of students in FE and HE".

This page is a list of things to consider. Under "practical and pastoral support" it has "making specific accommodation arrangements". There is little else said on this subject on other pages.

The older universities used to rely on Halls of Residence. These provided breakfast and dinner, usually at set meal times, collectively. Rooms would mostly be single study rooms (occasionally shared rooms), originally with communal toilets and washing facilities. Later such rooms were modified to include an en suite toilet and shower.

I know from going to conferences that these halls varied a lot. Nottingham was ahead in providing toilets, but they were shared between two rooms. I found out the problems because the other room was occupied by someone who didn't want to share it with me, and slipped the bolt across on my side. I had to go wandering during the night to find an alternative outside. I remember seeing Reading University's halls, where toilets, baths and showers opened individually onto a corridor, with just a curtain. Some of these fossils are still in service.

Most universities now use flats of four, six or eight students (or any other permutation). Each has a study room, usually with en suite, but may have several toilets communal. There is a communal kitchen with cooking facilities, fridges, food cupboards, washing machine and drier etc. Problems can arise if people don't share fairly. There may be a central restaurant where you pay a cashier for each meal, or you cook your own food in the shared kitchen.

Otherwise students have to find accommodation in the private sector, such as a house where one of the public rooms becomes a bedroom, there's one communal room, one kitchen, one loo and bath between maybe six students. If there is high demand room sharing is quite common, so these can get quite crowded. You have to deal collectively with a private landlord, and sometimes conditions can be poor. Students often find themselves in a rough area, with special needs housing mixed in, though you can be lucky and find a nice middle class semi to rent.

What is tending to happen especially in the newer universities is that the private sector offers house conversions or purpose built/renovated blocks of flats for students, but the students pay the private sector landlord. These can be less controllable by the university.

Student accommodation may be near the university campus, but in many cases it wont be - there may be a walk or a bus journey. This could be problemmatic on winter nights for vulnerable female students especially.

Noise is always a problem. Students can be loud, brash, drunken (often), unruly. For someone on the spectrum noise can be hell. There may be very little authority present. In the old days there was a resident warden and tutors to maintain discipline (I was a hall of residence tutor for three years as a postgrad - in spite of my weird social skills). Nowadays there may be a manager of many buildings and non-resident tutors with a minimal role.

When students want to party, or have noisy sex, in the room next door to you, it can be difficult. Students clubbing will wander back to their accommodation noisily and oblivious to who they wake up. Worse some students will insist on sharing their hi fi with everyone else. They put their speakers on their window sill, facing outwards, open the window and let blast.

Parents when previewing universities don't be fobbed off with a typical hall bedroom, all done up to look like something that's never going to happen. Arrange to see the sort of accommodation your son or daughter is likely to be put in - not just the bedroom, but the communal arrangements, access and services. Make a stand on getting what looks right and book well ahead. Don't leave it to chance.

Good accommodation is vital to anyone on the spectrum going to university. It is every bit as important as the teaching arrangements and needs just as much care.

The problem is some universities don't extend disability support to accommodation and social support. Establish that every university you visit. If they don't support the student in their accommodation you need to be pro-active in finding out what other options there are. Particularly check whether it is university run or private sector.

I'll try to expand on this shortly. Meantime others' experiences will help build up a picture.

  • Hello, so I do not know what to do...

    I am in my gap year, as my family is planning on moving which would be 40 min from Uni. So, I was planning to stay home as it makes it less of a change for me. But the move is taking longer than planned.

    So, I have been looking at accommodation on campus and the uni has offered me a room in 4-bedroom house. As it would be quieter than halls. But I am scared of change and being alone without family comforts. 

    I just need advice 

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  • Quite a few universities were like that and some still are. Shared rooms do linger, though most offer single sudy rooms, sometimes with an ensuite, but so much smaller these days.

    Unfairness to mature students is something to check for, as Maia says, one year late and you may get treated as mature though the threshold is usually 21, many students start a year late nowadays.

    Check the student union website for the university concerned, which will likely have key adice about the local area, or links to student view or other student experience wbsite.

    All very good advice, thanks

  • In the days when you just rented a hall room, you could be held directly responsible for any damage. In the days of the flat, you may find all the occupiers of the flat are financially liable for any damage, even if only one person did it. And again universities can exact money on the basis if you don't pay you cannot progress to the next academic year or you canniot graduate.

    You may not believe how costly this can be. If one student is an arsonist, or a complete lunatic, and does a lot of damage, everyone in the flat has to pay up. There's no clause "I stayed in my room all the time and didn't get involved".

    This is a bizarre state of affairs because often you don't get to choose your flatmates. A group of second or third years might be able to get together on a shared flat. But it is most likely that you will find yourself with a medley of people good or bad that you are supposed to get on with - not great news for someone on the autistic spectrum.

    If you are in a flat of 6 or 8 students, the chances are at least two will be drunk most of the academic year, more than two wont wash up or do their share of the cleaning. Some of your flatmates may be very disruptive. You are just expected to sort out the difficulties through social interaction. Is that a good idea for someone on the autistic spectrum.

    Sometimes they'll throw in a postgraduate (as if that guarantees improved behaviour) or an overseas student or maybe put in a disabled student, hoping he or she will have a calming effect and sets an example.

    Understanding of disability, such as disability training, may not have been extended to cleaners, janitors and accommodation managers.

    Parents need to ask about the mix of students in flats, and it may be advisable to fight for a smaller flat, or even an independent flatlet, even if it costs a lot more.

  • Given you've agreed to a ten month contract it often amazes people that the university will ask you to vacate the flat over Christmas and New Year AND may reserve the right to let the flat during the holidays - holiday lets, conferences, university tasters etc. Also they may redecorate flats in the holidays. This may also apply to private sector.#

    You may be allowed a locked cupboard to store bulky items.

    You may have to vacate by a specified date and may not be allowed back until a specified date. If you need flexbility to drive your son or daughter to the university inside those dates, you might find you have to book them hotel accommodation, though some universities may be more flexible.

  • To illustrate I've looked up some websites for student guidance as illustration, some for university run accommodation, some for private sector.

    unilife.southwales.ac.uk/.../3230-accommodation-legal-matters-when-renting-a-student-flat-house

    www.staffsunion.com/.../

    accommodation.leeds.ac.uk/.../your_contract

    www.nus.org.uk/.../

    This is such an important issue, but so often support advice for new disabled students doesn't extend to accommodation, and many universities seem to think their responsibilities to disabled students are confined to academic matters.

  • www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php   This is a discussion thread on getting out of student accommodation contracts. The Student Room www.thestudentroom.co.uk/ is a very useful website on lots of aspects of student life.

    Out in the real world you might have to commit yourself to a 6 month minimum rental period for furnished accommodation. In the university sector the minimum is isually an academic year, approximately 10 months.  How come? Well universities will argue they need the guaranteed income - tough if the customer doesn't like it.

    There may be a month's grace at the start of the academic year to cover for all the things that can arise to prevent studies getting underway, but once things get started you are tied to it. 

    You are bound to pay the costs of the whole academic year. You cannot graduate, or may not be allowed to proceed to the next academic year, unless you've paid your debts. That's a really difficult hold they have on you. All the more reason to check properly first.

    Yes you can get out of most contracts if you can find another student to take iover the contract. That's not that easy if you are able and good at social networking, not least because you are probably looking for a student at home, or with other flexible arrangements, who is free to move in. They tend to go straight home after lectures, and are less likely to be in the campus social networks.

    In days gone by, when halls were fairly autonomous, there was usually a waiting list of people wanting places, and you could organise a swap over, and the contracts were easily altered. Nowadays accommodation is managed separately, and cut backs in staffing mean there aren't the spare staff numbers.

    If you have a son or daughter going to university, needing student accommodation, you need to take positive pro-active steps to sort this out well in advance, and make sure you know the facts.