GCSE help

Any advice please? Our daughter is 15 and about to do her GCSE’s.  She’s still awaiting assessment due to the school failing to send off her assessment back in 2020. The school have apologised profusely but we are now stuck having to wait all over again.

the struggle that we are having is that she is in her own “bubble” 90% of the time and finds school extremely stressful. She is getting as much help as the school can give without diagnosis and are fully supportive. 

We knew this school year was going to be very difficult for her, however, any mention of study to get good grades and she has meltdowns. We try and get her a routine with daily life but it’s like if she has a meltdown then it’s like her routine “resets”. 

Is there any advice that anyone can give about encouraging her to study for an hour. She just wants to be left alone and we get that she is masking all day long at school and exhausted, but teachers have said they know she has the ability to do better and we want her to have the best options available to her, but she is refusing too. 

  • You're welcome. I'm sure you will do the right thing for her, the right thing might just look a little different and that's ok.

  • Thank you for all your advice. It’s the most we’ve had in all honesty. 
    she tells us about the open days after the fact so we haven’t but we are in touch with the careers person so we will keep working with them. 
    we just hope we do the right thing for her. And just support her with what she chooses. 

  • Makes total sense and is a very typical autistic mentality. I think sadly it is another example of where the education system just doesn't suit a lot of neurodivergent kids.

    I don't think there is an easy solution. I think it's probably worth asking the teacher she does get on with to brain storm with her and see if they can see a logical solution. What helps me sometimes is to put all options on the table even if I know full well they're an absolute no and then get rid of them by process of elimination and then I get left with the least hated solution.

    I can understand your concern when it would impact on her getting into their 6 form. I can see the benefit of staying somewhere more familiar. But I think this is unfortunately something you can't force as she may just feel backed into a corner and do less. You may find when it gets closer to the exams, panic suddenly sets in and that will be her motivator but that does depend whether she cares at all.

    As a back up plan, colleges should have entry level courses. Usually if they take one of these they can then work their way up to the course they do want to do. Have you been to speak to any colleges to see if there are alternative routes?

  • Yes that’s exactly it. She says that she is home and school is over and she doesn’t do school stuff when she’s home. ! 
    We have tried motivation with regards to studying with Greggs. She only likes the corned beef pasties but she would eat them all day as they are soft. lol.

    she has a teacher that she is close too as part of the SEN unit (nurture) and she does communicate with us regularly and does help. But she is so comfortable with her teacher that she will just tell her no. 
    she wanted to do animation and did art gcse but she struggled with it as she had to do what the prospectus wanted and not what she wanted to do as she only wants to draw anime and she couldn’t so it put her off that. 
    she is now thinking of college to do cooking but she hasn’t got the grades to get in. However her school has a 6th form college and they have said she needs to do a bit better at English and she can go there. This is what we have been trying to get her to study and this is the issue we are having. We think 6th form with familiar teachers and surroundings would be more comfortable for her. She would have to take a bus to get to college and she doesn’t like them and doesn’t like being around people so we have advised her that 6th form would probably be best for her. 
    she doesn’t want to work really and this is where we are concerned. She just wants to be in her room daydreaming in her bubble as we call it. She has no concept of money so we are also concerned as she just spends it on her game on her phone. We are trying to teach her life skills but it doesn’t work. This is our concern you see as we have no help to help her if that makes sense. With the school not submitting their assessment when they should have it has delayed any help she should have had and we haven’t had anyone we can talk to to get advice about her later in life or when she leaves education. 

  • It is very difficult. Some of it might be autism and some of it may be teenage attitude. I always think 15/16 is a funny time to give them important exams when their head is all over the place.

    I kind of get the irritation of being reminded to do something even though you're not managing it on your own. It's not very logical and must be frustrating for you but I think it feels like a failure being constantly pointed out.

    I wonder if some way of checking off the schedule on the white board would help.

    Motivation can be a big thing with conditions like autism. Is there anything she really wants to do when she leaves school? This was my problem at that age. I had no idea what I wanted to do so the motivation to do well at school just wasn't there. Is there anything she finds motivating that could be used as encouragement to do a little revision? Even if it started as say 10 minutes a day and she could have such and such at the weekend and then build it up?

    I think you just have to go with your gut. I wouldn't get into battles over it as that may make her more stressed and less likely to do well. But at the same time I probably wouldn't completely ignore it. Gentle encouragement would be my advise but you know your daughter best.

    Another option could be to speak to school about whether there is a teacher she gets on with that could do a bit with her during lunch times or whenever fits in. It might not be feasible or she may find it too much during her school day. I just know some autistic kids like school stuff to stay at school.

  • We definitely agree with you and certainly understand that she may find it better later in life. We just don’t know how to encourage her as her response is that she can’t be bothered. She just shuts herself in her room and daydreams and we leave her alone to decompress. 
    she does say she is exhausted from school and we get that. 
    We just haven’t been given any advice of what we should or shouldn’t be doing . Should we be encouraging her to get good grades so she can get a better job and encourage her independence? Or should we be letting her just do her own thing? 
    Routine wise, we have recently purchased a white board to try and help her with her routine. Which she was happy to have , however we ask her why she hasn’t done something and she’s forgotten but if we remind her she gets angry that we are repeating ourselves and she hates it to the point of stimming. Even hitting herself.
    we want her to have the best life she can possibly have but we don’t know what help is available for her when she gets out of school. We are really worried. 
     When she is in school she does what she needs to do, she doesn’t have any friends that she talks to and wants to be alone but has good relationships with the teachers. She doesn’t not socialise at home and has no interest in friendships So it must be exhausting for her to mask all day. 
    when she is at home, she is in her room daydreaming she calls it. Headphones on, with tv on and will barely communicate with us. She will often come down the stairs and it’s like we’re not even there and she is talking to herself. 
    We just want to support her. Thank you so much for your advice. 

  • An hour at a time might be a little long. 20 minute chunks may be easier for her. How does she respond to schedules? Or rewards? When I was that age I really struggled with revision. I needed to do it with another person and I needed a motivator for doing it ( usually in the form of chocolate). But everyone is different and it needs to be a way of revising that suits her best.

    Also don't underestimate how overwhelming a school day might be and as you say she will certainly be exhausted. Her brain probably isn't capable of taking in any more information straight after school. I'd advise something she finds calming when she gets in and some time alone to recover. Try to build the revision in later in the evening when she's maybe a little more able to take things in.

    May also be aware considering that she may well be doing her best. Although academically she may be more capable, emotionally she may be at her reach. She can always redo qualifications later in life in she wants to. I'm not saying don't push her academically at all but it's just worth baring in mind. I hope that doesn't come across as a criticism - I just spent my whole life hearing could do better and I don't think anyone understood how much effort I was actually putting in.

    She obviously has caring parents that want the best for her and that goes a very long way.