Can u reverse a diagnosis

Son is 16, he was diagnosed when he was 9 YO he is very high functioning. He thinks that the diagnosis is wrong or maybe what he needed help with like fine motor skills and social cues are now “well mastered “ He wants to challenge his diagnosis and he thinks that whatever is written is not representative of him anymore. Can we do that? He was diagnosed at Springfield Hospital Tooting, how can we get them to see him please? Any help much appreciated. It doesn’t help also that the field he wants don’t take autistic children.

  • No one grows out of it. It sounds more like he doesn't quite understand it which is reasonable as society doesn't quite 'get it' and he's surrounded by mis-understanding daily as almost all young autistic children are, which was hard for all of us.

    We all want to feel heard and understood. And that's the diplomatic action a parent will take. Allow exploration, recognise the complexity of what the child is going through, help steer them but not too far off course. Help them through the difficult bits and into an order of maturing and acceptance.

    In an ideal world, most of us might be understood by our personality type and guided into possible careers which suit. The current situation with society is such that the loudest most fascist voice wins rather than the most sensible and understanding. 

  • I don't really know how I feel about this post. It is appears to be intimating that you can simply grow out of Autism.

    He may have developed better masking or imitation skills since diagnosis, but do be cautious that this can come at a great cost with depression/burnout etc. I didn't discover I was Autistic until age 30 for this very reason. 

    I realise the military isn't open to Autism and I wholeheartedly believe that is unfair, so if that is his dream then I sympathise. 

    I do understand they are actively 'looking into it', maybe keep up to date on Leo Docherty, as I understand he is making proposals.

  • Society is such that in some situations, if a commanding authority said to Do This Now, an autistic-wired brain might not be able to without thought-full clarity of what that means exactly. However, in a different department, he could be a valuable resource. And with that, take a hobby which better suits -what he thinks he wants to do. 

    At 16 we may have all idealised a job which falsely appeared to contain a luxury of things we believe we enjoy. My son was so miserable about not becoming a Lead Singer in a band. Yet he's introverted and doesn't actually depend on the approval of a great deal of Others in order to exist. There is something pathological in being famous and one needs the temperament for it. But he is musical, he just needed exposure to the various roles and responsibilities within this massive industry.

    The Film industry in the States loves to hire Vets, especially for their transportation department - logistics and crew. Terms like 'Base Camp' and others are borrowed from the military. 

    And kids who want the seemingly endless adventure of the military sometimes are better suited teaching snowboarding, working a lighthouse, in the fire department, part of the ground crew at airports, as documentary film crew, geological fields, extreme sports or mechanics. 

    There is a great deal of purposeful and unintentional mis-direction in society. Apprehending talent too young, too quick. 

    Any given autistic in a stable environment, with dependable parents, a moral compass, who is allowed to grow at their pace and encouraged in their strengths will no doubt as a teen, feel the Dx is silly, unreasonable. 

    Test his improvisation skills, his ability to jump when commanded. If he falters for a moment due to a lack of knowledge of the full scale of production, when the line is depending upon him to move at someone else's whim, then a scheduled bi-weekly meet up with a therapist as a start towards "re-evaluation" could be a way to help him through this moment in time. Do something - meet him halfway. And over-expose him to a wealth of endless careers which he might be suited for. 

  • I think you would probably need to speak to your GP to find out what the referral pathway is. It’s likely they’ll have to assess him again before they can remove the diagnosis if they feel it was wrong. It’s possible that he may have been misdiagnosed and be dyspraxic (not sure how much that would limit him in the army as well though?) but they might not have, just because he feels he’s not autistic doesn’t mean he isn’t (anymore) How are his friends? Neurodivergent people do tend to flock together especially if they have similar interests. Making friends doesn’t disprove the diagnosis, we are capable of it if we find the right people. The Army can also have him reassessed in the future if it’s overturned and they don’t agree based on what they are seeing in him, my friend had to leave the police because they sent him for autism assessment and he was diagnosed. It may not all be as black and white as it may seem

  • Surely assessment of a minor requires parental consent? I hear about schools "putting kids on medication for ADHD and acrrying out assessments, but surely no reputatable clinician would treat a kid without consent.

  • They always mentioned fine motor skills in regards of his handwriting, they never mentioned any other problems, in terms of behaviour he used to be a very isolated child, but he never complained about that, happy on his own company , the school highlighted that… moving to high school he changed and when he was 13 he made a good circle of friends , it was always mentioned at his high school that the circle of friend they respect him and don’t mind him being controlling because he have “ more knowledge and always been a reference for them” at his high school he is very driven academically and that gave him I think the confidence, he didn’t have any sensory issues the only adjustment he had is a laptop because of his handwriting. Also you mentioned I put him through the assessment, I didn’t, it was the school. 

  • Yes you are correct, they refused him based on his diagnosis. The problem is clear they want take him unless we say the diagnosis is inaccurate or incorrect. 

  • You say "the field he wants don't take autistic children " - I have seen mention of this in respect of the Army, but I can't think what other field this might be. In most occupations the Equalities Act applies.  But by all means ask for a re-assessment.

  • What do you think? Is he a master at communication and social etiquette?  Surely you were the one to put him forward for assessment, based on all his behaviours, and not just his social communication skills?

    As for fine motor skills, that would be Dyspraxia and not ASD, so there’s that….

    I guess you can always go through the diagnostic process again, or present new information that refutes the previous diagnosis. Whether or not it would be struck off your records, I don’t know.

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