CBD Oil for Severe ASD for 5 year old

I have a 5 year old who has severe asd and is non vocal, he is on melatonin tablets to put him to sleep and he gets very angry and bites everyone at home and at school. has any parent tried CBD oil to calm similar kids who have similar behaviours, as Cahms are not medicating and he is extremely hard to handle at home and he is too young for drugs so Im told. So im desperate for any help and I know its not a quick fix but anything to calm him down.  Thank you

  • get ready, here comes an information bomb! KA-BOOOOOOM!

    have you tried giving him a gluten free, dairy free diet? 

    i found that makes me a lot less angry. i also found nightshades made me feel bad too (potatoes, tomatoes, bell peppers, chilli peppers and aubergines).

    after a while of doing the gluten and dairy free, and avoiding the nightshades, i then found out even grains made me feel uneasy so i stopped eating rice too and just have quinoa sometimes now instead. i have to rinse the quinoa in a sieve first (as anyone should) to get rid of the saponin in it which gives you digestion problems but because it's a seed it's easier to digest than grains. i have coconut aminos with it which is made out of coconuts and is a healthier alternative to soy sauce.

    i can't eat legumes like soy beans and kidney beans and soy sauce is made from one of them so had to stop having that. i can't have vinegar either, it makes me nervous and stressed.

    onions, garlic and cauliflower all make me feel ill too. i get overheated and tired if have them because of their high FODMAP content. (search for the FODMAP diet if you want to know more about that).

    so now i eat a pretty limited diet. sweet potatoes (they're not in the nightshade family), meat, vegetables and at the weekend i treat myself to some ice cream or chocolate so it doesn't get too boring. i have found out i can have ghee (which is clarified butter) because it doesn't contain the things that are in dairy that affect people who can't have it. it's also a food that feeds the good bacteria in your gut and since our stomachs are full of bacteria keeping the good ones well fed has a lot of physical and mental benefits for us.

    some people think this is extreme but thousands of years ago no people ate a varied diet compared to what we eat today. even most vegetables were only eaten where they were grown. there wasn't refrigeration and trading with primitive technology took too much time for people to be able to eat all the things we do now. many people back then may have eaten no more than one or two varieties of vegetables and only one carbohydrate source.

  • My partner is undiagnosed asd, he uses cbd for anxiety and to help with his anger, he found it helped but he is am adult. 

    We did discuss it for our daughter for her anxiety but after asking for help with her sleep (3 hours a night) we got reported for buying melatonin ( didn't know you weren't allowed) we decided not to try it

  • It depends on what you are trying to achieve, CBD oil is muscle relaxant, and subtle pain relief, It is not a sedation drug, so he will not become unaware of what is happening to him , but he will be physically relaxed just enough maybe to prevent against instant aggression, But he will still get mad inside and the relaxed delay is not for long, so continuous anger will not be affected, just a delay in action, Its i cant be asked to move my body even though I'm angry, It will not sedate him to not feel or notice the anger , Personally i would get to the root of the anger , rather than attempt sedation,

    Have you read any of the non verbal autistic peoples blogs ? thats a really good place to start 

  • but is the CBD oil beneficial for children with severe autism and who are non verbal, it has helped some autistic children based in wales. But the NHS do not have enough clinical evidence to support this. Any other advice out their as we I really need some real advice from parents who have similar children with a similar scenario.

  • Eg. 2 6 Yr old twins. Non communicative. No touching no eye contact little boys. Who were given very low doses. When then whilst laughing 80% more in the control time. Also suddenly turned stared into thier mums eyes

     Got up smiled walked over and gave thier mum. Her first real hug.   

    Not bad eh!  

    Doctors will never tell you this the military won't let them 

  • I feel as a NT you maybe trying to conform him too much to our physical reality. Non speakers seem to have decided that our physical desires are nothing worth bothering with. And his imaginary world is far more exciting than our physical world. All he wants is to be given lots of space and left alone to imagine. Of course he needs to eat and sleep. Buts that it. The rest is a physicaly thrilling world we built for us. Not them.

    If you really are open minded. Research all the work that was done with amazing results in the 50.s and 60.s with LSD. Until the military banned it. 

    It may open a door for you both to meet somewhere else. But I stress. It's for both of you to take. To be fair

  • thank you, just would like some advice and feedback on the matter as im not getting much help from CAHMS they don't want to help. and if CBD will calm the 5 year old when he gets very aggressive as it has less side affects.

  • Some people have reported that it is effective, but be warned most health care professionals frown upon it and it may cause you problems with them