Was Jesus autistic?

i am no longer religious, but believe there is a greater propensity for religious belief in people on the spectrum, sometimes to an unhealthy degree. anyway, for fun, was Jesus autistic?

Most knowledgeable mothers would recognise autistic traits in their young son...

1. To her face, he called his mum "Woman"
2. He went missing, was found debating with adults, and was annoyed that his mother wouldn't automatically know where he was
3. He had a meltdown in the temple
4. He had an encyclopedic knowledge of scripture

  • I forgot - Van Gogh, Picasso, leonardo da Vinci, Einstein, Isaac Newton, Galileo, Michelangelo, etc etc 

  • Absolutely - and the Buddha & Mohamed & Shamans & etc etc etc.... Art, religion & science is ALL AUTISTIC mind patterns. Many enlightened auties know and always have know! Ahh - so is Neo in The Matrix & Superman & Batman & any ‘super’ hero! 

    The X Men - all autistic too. 

  • I can offer proof.. I was like him .. I don't know how I know, I just know.. 42 years of my locked up inside myself because society told us that socializing is prewired and that it is a must to socialize.. but we don't have to use our physical senses to socialize.. I feel things I hear things.. I am an auditory and visual thinker.. I hear sounds and convert them into visual. I am not blind.. I have not yet been diagnosed but my Chiropractor "unlocked me" and I see the truth now.. you're all thinking this is crazy but al the signs are there no one bothers to connect them.. just like Temple Grandin whom I learned about a few days ago she sees the pictures and connects things.. so do I .. but I also hear and feel things and see past the words .. I have walked the earth like he did and did not know it.. people beat me battered me raped me done so many things to me. but I still stood strong screaming from the inside for someone to hear me and understand not by words but by feelings..  we were never prewired to socialize.. we were meant to learn.. there is no heaven there is no hell .. only the belief and physical evidence is what "neruotypicals" see cause they aren't unlocked yet.. we were never meant to hold things inside.. how can we learn from everything if we have to lock it up inside..   there's patterns in everything it's the natural order of things.. there are more senses that those that are physical.  we have feelings .. we use it as our intuition.. why do you think we get the cold shakes about a person and we prejudge them.. we are supposed to say what's on our minds..  if you think about it.. Jesus Moses Noah they WERE autistic.. those that are on the spectrum can understand this if they stop over analyzing and use what was given to us.. we have to go back to the basics in order to see everything..  that is our learning process we just have to connect everything .. why do you think we have Nostradamus and people who saw the future.. they were autistic they could see past the physical .. when the commandments were written it was written by someone who was autistic .. it was his way of getting his thoughts out.. just like I am now..we are not supposed to have a filter.. that's why I talk a mile a second.. if we don't get it out it will be lost and forgotten.. everyone wants to say this is a theory but to me it is not.. did you all know that if you are thirsty and have no water a piece of gum can extend your life because it helps to produce the saliva in your mouth.. don't drink anything all day and when you get thirsty chew a piece of gum.. I know this has probably already been proven or said but no one has brought it to light.. I talk what's on my mind so my writing is all over the place..   Noah built the arc cause he felt saw and knew what was coming the signs were there.. the animals know and he knew cause he used his senses and not his eyes which so many people are blinded to.. light affects those with autism because it blocks the truth of life and nature.. we still need it but not all the time.. autism is not meant to be understood in what everyone thinks. it's what those that don't have these "gifts" have the need to learn cause they sense they are different too .. we are all on the spectrum.. we have all have 2 or more minds. the one you think before you speak and the one that actually comes out of your mouth.. why can't you just say what's on your mind.. everyone over analyzes things.. I'm dyslexic but not by letters.. I mix the words on paper because I learned at an early age words by auditory by listening.. austistic people can understand the language and get confused..   we think with feeling and emotion.. the neurotypical thinks with their tiny eyes.. so when someone says "CAN you sing or Could you sing" but a different infliction to your voice.. .. just like the different vocal inflections of the same word meaning so many things..  like "bich I gonna kill you bich please or yesssss bich in a happy inflection.. the truth is getting breeded out with us.. we are all equal we are all the same we are all family.. the book said we are from Adam and Eve but if we came from Adam and Eve then we came from the same mommy and daddy . I don't understand why people can't see this with feeling..   Greta Thurnberg understands because she feels and sees the truth that the earth is going to reset itself soon just like the floods. the worlds weather and everything is based on the combined moods and feelings of everyone .. august sept hurricane tornado season I don't know but think about it.. kids go to school parents have to deal with it.. the stupid business people have to go on with making money to support their kids that's a lot of stress and anxiety at that time.. we are sending a signal.. a picture you could say for us to connect the dots as Temple Grandin did.. she sees pictures and connects them.. we are making the storms and hurting ourselves.. open your eyes..people.. I know most of you won't believe me but I understand everything now..  

  • even though, he had noticeable autistic traits, i wouldn't say he's an autistic.  i'll say he was just different amongst people. But this could interesting if jesus was  an autistic, it might cause a major shake up.

  • 'all people on earth are as important as each other' is a popular mantra but i don't agree

    mother theresa is as important as hitler?

    fred west as important as ghandi?

    deliberately violent football thugs as important as greenpeace memers?

    no. the world is full of humans that are of no importance whatsoever, and in some cases it is important to be rid of them.

  • well it must just be wishfull thinking then i hope someone finds proof that Jesus was autistic someday

  • indeed there is no proof of the legend from 2000 years ago having a condition for which people only started being diagnosed in recent decades and still isn't properly understood or documented by doctors...

    still, all people on earth are just as important as each other

  • if Jesus was autistic then we the nas's chirdren would be the quite important but there is no proof so where is the proof and wny are we not imporant then?

  • if Jesus was autistic then we the nas's chirdren would be the quite important but there is no proof so where is the proof and wny are we not imporant then?

  • AUT1E said:
    For me my nature is to question everything and to never take anything for granted, and in that way I am very scientific.

    that, my friend, is your religion :D

  • AUT1E said:
    i am no longer religious, but believe there is a greater propensity for religious belief in people on the spectrum, sometimes to an unhealthy degree.

    I don't mean to offend anyone (religion can be a touchy issue), but I believe the propensity for religious beliefs in Aspies are actually reduced. To start off with, religion is something that is indoctrinated to children, without clear evidence, and they believe it without question. For me my nature is to question everything and to never take anything for granted, and in that way I am very scientific. To me religion is something that is a comfort to NT's who don't have the inclination or intellect to question and consider the world around them might be something different to what they have been told it is. The biggest part of religion seems to be life-after-death concepts, which I think bring comfort to NT's who find comfort in the concept that once their corporeal life ends, they will live on and see dead relatives etc. The actual reality is once brain death has occurred the only part of them that lives on is in people's memories, photographs, and videos.

    If there was a God, then why would he have made Autistics who have to endure a life made extremely difficult by arrogant NT's who think everything has to go their way?!

    I could go on but I think I have expressed the broad idea. To anyone interested in these types of issues I recommend reading the book "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

  • you speak of jesus like you know him well. 2000 years is a long time for the truth to be distorted.

    with reference to the original post:

    1) the word "woman" was not a word in jesus' native language (aramaic) - there could be a poor translation here, combined with dodgy heresay

    4) anyone can have an encyclopaedic knowledge of scripture if they dedicate their life to it

    anyway, as an autistic person, the biggest sign for me to suggest that maybe jesus was autistic would be how he didn't fight when they crucified him

  • Dodgey theology besides and the Autistic JC; Buddah might get a look in on a diagnosis. (Though he will have to wait 5 years like the rest of us) 

    The notion of JC being Autistic all ties in nicely with the stonner view that JC was a "Spaceman Alien" dude. I can see where the ideas are coming from. This alien is well able without the dodgey advise though.

    As for the writers of "THE BOOK" too many to count without a quick trip to my theological library, were you refering to the update by the Nicean council ? Original arthors or King James and his mates. Proper Briar patch this.

    Anyone with ASD got the hang of the walking on water thing yet. Best mates waiting on the water into wine gig and mine's a shiraz. 

    Do you think Peter the fisherman was a candidate for ASD, he cods it up well and truely, foot in mouth and clumbsy socialite, was loved for it by all accounts. A quaint way of saying there was likely to be no change there.

    If Peters in charge of the pearly gates does that mean we all get a pass.

  • There are problems with diagnosing any historical figure even when we have a reliable documentary record. The gospels are hardly a reliable historical source and there is very little external evidence to show that Jesus even existed.

    But let us say that Jesus is real and the gospels are true. What do they reveal? A man who believed he was the son of god, who spoke with angels, claimed to work miracles, acted with complete disregard for his own safety.

    There are a number of diagnostic criteria that could apply apart from autism. And how many autistic people are natural leaders and charismatic speakers who attract a mass following? But if we are going to play this game (and it is only a game) surely the outsider, the loner, Judas Iscariot is a more likely contender for an autism diagnosis.

  • Had the same J C thoughts myself and in translation there is a real proofing of the theory, if the literal practices of the New testament Quotations are assessed in historical context there is much to merit this as a valid and posssibly viable notion.

    All good safe healthy suvival advise for ASD survival throughout history, but not so in the duplicity of todays thoroughly devide and pluralistic expressions of mixed jewish law and post christic adaptive expressions of this religion in todays society world wide.

    This argument may account for the sucess of the literal interpretation movement in evagelical persuasions and the disasterous consequences of this choice of interpretation alone, it would easily quantify the difficulties in interpretations that spawn religious factions.

    Not safe at all in my experience. A far too EXCLUSIVE mode of human expression in my experience. It is not unheard of for Autism to be pronounced even today as possesion within fervent and active religious communities. Each to their own.

    The thologies of the decades stripped away do lead to the status of christic advice being the sensible interpretations of a singular, Truth focused and puristic mind.

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm proper thorn to pull

     

  • yes. and, according to the book, he spoke in parables, metaphor and other non-vernacular terms. there is probably enough information in the new testament for a formal, arm's-length diagnosis.

    i also believe more firmly, that the authors of the bible/christianity were definitely autistic

    christian religiosity can be crudely summarised as 'holiness is the opposing of human nature' - lust, greed, power etc.

    autistic people are intellectual rather than instinctual (now proven by FMRI results) and value rule-based environments. they can easily be held as (as i was) a 'very good christian'.

    ideas of circumcision (not literal, but the modern theological concept of being 'separate' from the herd) being desirable are purely autistic, as most non-autistic people experience massive motivation to conform.

    at face value, a high functioning autitic person with a dependent personality disorder is actually the perfect christian.

  • yes, but they can't be - people like cats!

  • Any interesting theory.  It is also considered that cats are autistic!