9 minutes of thrilling footie - excellent watch, even for non sports lovers!!

What on earth for I have no interest whatsoever in sport?

Yes, but a lot of people DO have such interest - including pride for their country's sportspeople. There is huge skill and effort involved, as you would see in the video. It also gives pleasure and comradeship and a sense of belonging. 

Not ot me it dosen't, the footballers may have great skill and put a lot of effort into it and htey're well paid to do so.

I feel a sense of belonging to the land itself and many of the creatures in and on it, but not to other humans or very few. I don't really feel I belong here a lot of the time either, very few share my interests to the depth that I have them, but then I guess that parts true for many of us here. When you have such deep interests and/or many different interests, there are going to be few people who can share them the point where you feel excited by the conversation and not like you're in a sort of teaching role. I think one of the things that stops me feeling I belong anywhere is that I ask to many questions and see through any stories a group tells about itself, because many others dont' see it they think I'm being deliberately difficult and group leaders and there always are people in that position, think I'm heretical in some way, even if the group isn't religious.

I'll look into cooling blankets thanks, Fearn and Boris want to cuddle up to me at night and make me ever hotter.

TheCatWoman said:

Maybe not really having a sense of pride and never really feeling that I've belonged anywhere or to anyone and have found being told I belong to someone or some group has ended up being abusive has made me very wary of anything like that.

I find this very poignant. I really hope you can find a way to get this feeling of community. I get this feeling when watching footie [even on TV], also responding on here and watching TV programmes of subjects I enjoy [sometimes writing to presenters or the production company]. But now you've found your DNA ancestors, that is a sense of belonging surely? I hope we understand each other a bit better now . 

On a completely different tack, I read that you needed a blanket or weight on top when sleeping. Moderator Suzanne mentioned a cooling blanket - I've bought one and they really work. They might work for you too.

Actually Marianne, I'm so used to people disagreeing with me or ignoring me completely, that I just shrug it off now, or argue back for the fun of it.

When I asked why, I wasn't questioning you for liking football, but why we're all suposed to feel proud and have a sense of belonging, its something I genuinely don't understand. Maybe not really having a sense of pride and never really feeling that I've belonged anywhere or to anyone and have found being told I belong to someone or some group has ended up being abusive has made me very wary of anything like that. But I'm fascinated that others do feel such thing, particulalry things like national pride. I also accept that I don't get the dopamine response that many others do to achieving something even vicariously.

Actually Marianne, I'm so used to people disagreeing with me or ignoring me completely, that I just shrug it off now, or argue back for the fun of it.

When I asked why, I wasn't questioning you for liking football, but why we're all suposed to feel proud and have a sense of belonging, its something I genuinely don't understand. Maybe not really having a sense of pride and never really feeling that I've belonged anywhere or to anyone and have found being told I belong to someone or some group has ended up being abusive has made me very wary of anything like that. But I'm fascinated that others do feel such thing, particulalry things like national pride. I also accept that I don't get the dopamine response that many others do to achieving something even vicariously.

I feel a sense of belonging to the land itself and many of the creatures in and on it, but not to other humans or very few. I don't really feel I belong here a lot of the time either, very few share my interests to the depth that I have them, but then I guess that parts true for many of us here. When you have such deep interests and/or many different interests, there are going to be few people who can share them the point where you feel excited by the conversation and not like you're in a sort of teaching role. I think one of the things that stops me feeling I belong anywhere is that I ask to many questions and see through any stories a group tells about itself, because many others dont' see it they think I'm being deliberately difficult and group leaders and there always are people in that position, think I'm heretical in some way, even if the group isn't religious.

I'll look into cooling blankets thanks, Fearn and Boris want to cuddle up to me at night and make me ever hotter.

TheCatWoman said:

Maybe not really having a sense of pride and never really feeling that I've belonged anywhere or to anyone and have found being told I belong to someone or some group has ended up being abusive has made me very wary of anything like that.

I find this very poignant. I really hope you can find a way to get this feeling of community. I get this feeling when watching footie [even on TV], also responding on here and watching TV programmes of subjects I enjoy [sometimes writing to presenters or the production company]. But now you've found your DNA ancestors, that is a sense of belonging surely? I hope we understand each other a bit better now . 

On a completely different tack, I read that you needed a blanket or weight on top when sleeping. Moderator Suzanne mentioned a cooling blanket - I've bought one and they really work. They might work for you too.