Struggling!

Hi everyone. 

New here but not to ASD. Out of ideas and nowhere else to look. Any input would be most helpful on the following.......

Teenage son, ASD, 18 at college this last year back in education after being removed and home-ed for 8 years due to self-harming and extreme anxiety. He was so looking forward to a brand new experience in college, promised the earth and yet within three months a complete bag of nerves, struggling big time with getting the college on board and accepting his 'way of doing things'. By Easter on meds for the first time ever for anxiety and now had to go part-time for the last few weeks.

Crazily he is desperate to continue with his studies (gained a Distinction* the best they've ever had on this current course dispite everything) onto the next level and we've asked for a 1:1 support worker to be employed this time to support him much better. (Hoping this will happen).

The thing is... he is now so terrified that this year will go the same way and is now talking about it all going wrong every single day - non-stop. I have a background in psychology and run a support group myself so no stranger to all the general methods of trying to ease his anxieties but I simply can't get through to him that this time it will hopefully be different (she says).

This course will be the last and the most valuable to him economically, there is no pressure on him to go and he wants to attend but very much on his terms. I'm concerned that if he does go and this awful mindset continues he will suffer beyond what anyone should yet if he doesn't go then he will feel as though he has failed and will become a NEET statistic as full time work will not be possible for him.

Counselling is a 6 mth waiting list and we've seen here that others are sent away with  'we don't know how to help ASD teenagers with anxiety as CBT doesn't work' just piled on the scrap heap and there are no funds for private therapy.

Two minds to just take control and say that's it you are not going as he feels so ill now that he says he can't make any decisions at all. Yet next week I have a big meeting to go to where I'm supposed to be asking for the LA to pay for a support worker that I don't even know if he will tolerate (they will have to be so on the ball its scary).

I would so like him back off of medication and happy as he was before he ever went back into education (last week he spoke of how hurting himself would at least releive the pain he is feeling) and GP just offering to up the dose of meds to control the shaking and sleeplessness!

I just don't know how else to help him and I'm very, very concerned for him.

Any new ideas? Anyone at all?

  • Thanks to all 3 of you for taking the time to reply. 

    One year before he was due to start college I contacted both Connexions and our local LA and we had a meeting. The LA said that they did not think he needed a S139 and the college could cope perfectly well. I wasn't happy about this so managed to get a blank S139 and completed it myself (as his educator for the previous 8 years). The college accepted this and it has been his 'working document'.

    As the pressure has increased, and therefore the stress, obviously his needs have increased alongside.

    I asked in March this year for the S139 to be updated via the college but nothing was done. I have since asked for a 1:1 support worker for him (via Autism Wessex) including collection from home and to be with him all day etc amounting to around  £18000 for the year coming. The LA have agreed (by phone with me) that anything the college ask for WILL be funded as they have been working from a S139 already so there is no question as to whether the LA would fund (albeit that GP's letters and his own evidence statement must be sent in also). Connexions have said that the LA do not wish them to complete a new S139.

    Where the problem lies is in whether the college have this week submitted a bid to the LA for this 1:1 support worker funding and even if they have whether all of next years tutors will abide by what the support workers job (decided by my son and Autism Wessex) will need to be. This MUST include travel to and from, helping him organise 8 tutors emails, taking notes and attending off-site visits etc.

    The main reason why he has become so distressed (apart from feeling alone and unsupported there) is that he has had non-stop difficulites with getting all of these new tutors to understand why he needs to ask non-stop questions about timetables, room numbers, who will be there, and whether this, that or the other is ok.

    He now feels that even if the 1:1 support worker is with him then the staff will still make life incredibly hard for him. 

    I suppose what I'm wondering is:

    Firstly, if they have not submitted a bid to the LA for the whole sheebang and just asked for some TA support do I bother fighting them for what we believe is the right amount of support? Even though I'm unsure whether he will cope at all?

    And : Would the college HAVE to accept whatever Autism Wessex and my son deem to be the way it will work or can the college refuse some aspects of the support worker if they feel so inclined?

    (I'm thinking as an example: he wants to email all the new tutors individually any questions that come up. The course manager (a woman who shall remain nameless) has said that he is to email her, SHE will decide what questions are JUSTIFIED and then send on those only! With no further details of how he will know what has been sent or not and no other information as to how any replies will be sent back to him. This is making him so anxious its unreal).

    So.... if they say yes, have a support worker but we do not agree to them overseeing your emails and you must use the pattern the course tutor wants he won't be able to cope. But I'm really not sure how much power I have here?

    In answer to some of the original questions, there is no other college withing 40 miles that does the same course, he won't try any other meds, he hasn't YET done anything to himself but it may be only a matter of time, there is no other way of gaining this particular qualification. 

    The meeting on Mon 10th June is with the Vice Principle plus loads of others no doubt to help me feel particularly out numbered and I just feel that I need to know exactly what his rights are before I go in there. But am I just going to alienate the course tutor even further by being just another 'neurotic Mum'.

    I do think that if someone could spend the time to really convince him that they are on his side then we may be able to get through this. However, I'm pretty convinced that the new course manager has already decided that as he is academically able then the rest of his problems are due to bloodymindedness not ASD.

    (What amounted to 40 A4 pages of emails went back and forth to try and get some lesson-shadowing and an off-site visit arranged so that he could sample the course work because the course tutor kept trying to persuade him to do things differently. i.e the offsite visit was by mini-bus, he gets claustrophobia in any enclosed space and a mini-bus overloaded with chattering students for more than 20mins is an absolute no-no. This year we have been fine meeting his course tutor and students at the venue by car. She went over and over why he couldn't manage it, declined 2 reasonable adjustments I offered and then said that it just wasn't appropriate).

    He has also been given 20 days of work experience as a condition of getting a place on this course whilst we know that others already on the course this year were not even though they too had no previous experience.

    I can't believe that this is still going on 10 years nearly after leaving the system.

    Any more thoughts would be most appreciated and apologies for the length of this.

  • Hi mumski,

    So sorry to hear that you're having a bad time but have you looked into Connexions for help. The local council is responsible, usually through Connexions to do a Learning Difficulty Assessment. This will help to identify any educational etc needs your son may have. 
      

    They have to do it in accordance with Section 139A/140 Learning and Skills Act 2000 and Section 80 Education and Skills Act 2008.

     

    It is voluntary and the college doesn't have to follow it but it's a statutory document.  

     

    From here or otherwise I would seriously look into social services to do an assessment as he is 18+ 

    In here you can discuss support needed for him from daily living to socialising etc. The only thing is that he might need to meet the council's eligibility criteria. Having said that, as it's a human right to have an access to an education; they and/or the college cannot ignore it and need to provide some support somehow.

     

    The assessment is a long process and even still to get any meaningful support but it is something to look at.


      

    Also you might want to discuss a Carer's Assessment for yourself. If your son gets to higher education the picture should be a little better there. 

     

    I hope some of what I've said helps Smile

    urspecial

  • Hi - what a fraught situation.  Sounds like you've both reached a crisis point.  Do you think he can continue as he sounds to be in a terribly anxious state?   However much he may want to, it does sound like he's on a downward spiral.  Such a dilemma about which way to go.  No obvious solution.  Do you think the college can deliver for him?  Sorry for all the questions, but has he started using self-injurous behaviour to try + cope?  This is probably a really stupid question, but is there any other way he can gain his qualifications apart from at college?  He sounds really clever.  Have his meds been helpful, would another med suit him better?  I really do feel for the both of you.  It's such a pity that the college can't offer him a more suitable environment.  There are some autism providers who have colleges but I don't know what they offer or whether it would be what he wanted or needed.  You are so v concerned about him that, from what you say, it makes me think that perhaps you should take charge of things if he can't make decisions himself.  Hope things start to ease off a bit.