Imagining a neurodivergent world

I would say that we do live in a quite strongly neurodivergent world.

I would quite happily say that people regarded as neurotypical do/would outnumber those of us who would be regarded as neurodivirgent but ...

When it comes to decision-making in this world, many of the decisions made by the few that are followed by the many are actually being imagined and made by people with a significant number of neurodivergent traits.

I would tend to think that the founders of, and many of the people high up in, the mega-companies, like Google, Apple and Facebook, that are more and more dictating our lives are neurodivergent people.

I do appreciate that for many of us, in our day-to-day lives, it would be nice to be openly connected with plenty of neurodiviergent people so I appreciate the positive natures of this thread.

One last point, if we are overly tarring people that are neurotypical as liars, nasty or otherwise diabolical, we are at risk of demonstrating 'hate-speech', so I'd ask people to just bear this in mind.

I would not tolerate hate-speech against fellow neurodivergents, and I report the thankfully actually quite rare instances (in my own observations at least) of it that I occasionally see on other platforms (Twitter, YouTube whatever).

If I see anti-NT or anti-ND hate speech on this forum, I'll be as fair on NTs as I am on NDs.

I'm pleased that this thread is generally being quite lovely to each other, which is very good to see 

Thank you very much for your "balancing" post. With my talk of an "Autistic Army" and frankly the sheer enjoyment I've derived from other people's criticisms of "normie world" I am shamelessly working to sublime my own feelings of hatred of things that happened to me and others of my "type" via a little bit of controversial speak mixed with a lot of humour. I assume that here that my fellow Autists are somewhat like me, well versed in feeling strong emotion, but not instantly acting on it. In normie world, most of us appear to have taken a lot of "stick". That will continue until there is some pushback, OR we prove ourselves to be actually superior, or at least equal in worth to the normies.

My problem is that I always get the low wage, I'm always at the end of the line when the freebies are handed out, and I'm almost always "uninvited" although to be fair the vast majority of events I do not wish to go to anyway. I've been blaming myself and working like a *** to improve myself and now I find that despite being hugely skilled, held in high regards I am told by a few people for my moral values and actions, willing (and sometimes able!) to work like an outmoded concept, these things are insufficent to make me employable on the same rate as a Normie, with his well presented CV full of lies... EVERY TIME. 

I don't think my experience is unique either, and since I've been living on 2000 quid a year now for twenty years since the last time (by sheer luck) I had an "enabler" who could help me past the normie bullshit and into work, Admittedly I chose a second life partner who earns too much to allow me dole, and is completely unable to help me with my limitations, excepting to put a roof over my head, but I didn't know I was autistic and thought my limitations could eventually be overcome simply by straightening up and flying right. Now I know that the normies will NEVER give me a living wage and a decent job again, and I don't quite have all the right qualities to make entrepeneurship work consistently despite being quiet a competent and generally good performer, away from the water cooler, I am becoming very keen to see my Autistic comrades seize control of society from the normies, actually.  

NO hate speech intended here, but may I ask, when do we attack?

For once, I don't think I want to be late.

"when do we attack?"

Erm ... I don't know. I think Zuckerberg has been attacking for years. What he's attacking, I don't know. But I've felt pretty caught in the 'friendly fire' so to speak.

I sympathise and empathise a lot with the huge struggles with getting employment. It is really hard. This bit really does kind of 'kill me' too.

I know that NTs are very good at getting through the interview process without too much issue.

My question is, who sets the rules for how interviews are run? Is it NTs or NDs?

If you'd have asked me 20 years ago, I'd have suggested NTs largely set the rules and run this side of things. I struggled 20 years ago a fair bit, but I just about coped.

Nowadays, I get the impression it's systems and rules designed by NDs that are beginning to control the recruitment process. Computer systems and standardised interview questions are the kind of thing NDs dream up and wish to implement. I don't think I can totally blame NTs for this. I've much more struggled in recruitment in the digital age (which is more likely an ND-developed product) than the non-digital age.

Giving up on a game where you cannot possibly take part effectiveiy, and seeking an alternative path where your failure is not predetermined by other people's procedures and expectations is the strategy I am exploring right now. 

Getting "other people" out of my business, removes at least 50% of my probability of failure, and failure hurts a lot less when it is really only your fault. You can change yourself and not fail again. It takes a lot more effort to stop the NT's sabotaging your efforts, than it takes to stop yourself doing it.

I no longer feel any responsibility to "perform as instructed" since it simply does not work for me, and I've given it a half century of effort. 

Knowing however that I have no route to the "easy money" (and regular employment is the very definition of easy money, let me tell you!) Crime is an unattractive lifestyle, except for a very few "winners" and even then, they never quite know if they will get to keep their gains, especially when surrounded by other criminal types, Benefits even if I qualified for them (I do not) require a level of abasement and begging that makes it a bloody job in and of itself, and becoming dependent on the state appears to be as psychologically corroding as a heroin habit.

So for me the only way forwards is subsistence, whilst I manage a small, quite neurodivergent team that is developing a novel table top low energy nuclear fusion device... In ten years of intermittent effort we have done transmutation twice now, (at least according to the DIY spectroscopy, we recognise there is more to be done before we make any public announcements, but we think it might be worth a few quid when we can get it to work more reliably, and er, control the fire risk. 

I also have several other threads of activity, any of which I hope may lead me to sufficient prosperity to (one sunny day) become a "provider" again, rather than the "taker" than I have to be when there is no one else to do my job applications for me... 

I can quite understand, I feel.

Is the initial application part (which I also struggle hugely with) an ND or an NT thing? I'd personally find that hard to say. My own feelings are that it's lately come from a worst of both (ND and NT) worlds situation.

I understand the despair and somewhat feel I am your brethren in regard of this very life-limiting struggle.

I can quite understand, I feel.

Is the initial application part (which I also struggle hugely with) an ND or an NT thing? I'd personally find that hard to say. My own feelings are that it's lately come from a worst of both (ND and NT) worlds situation.

I understand the despair and somewhat feel I am your brethren in regard of this very life-limiting struggle.

Giving up on a game where you cannot possibly take part effectiveiy, and seeking an alternative path where your failure is not predetermined by other people's procedures and expectations is the strategy I am exploring right now. 

Getting "other people" out of my business, removes at least 50% of my probability of failure, and failure hurts a lot less when it is really only your fault. You can change yourself and not fail again. It takes a lot more effort to stop the NT's sabotaging your efforts, than it takes to stop yourself doing it.

I no longer feel any responsibility to "perform as instructed" since it simply does not work for me, and I've given it a half century of effort. 

Knowing however that I have no route to the "easy money" (and regular employment is the very definition of easy money, let me tell you!) Crime is an unattractive lifestyle, except for a very few "winners" and even then, they never quite know if they will get to keep their gains, especially when surrounded by other criminal types, Benefits even if I qualified for them (I do not) require a level of abasement and begging that makes it a bloody job in and of itself, and becoming dependent on the state appears to be as psychologically corroding as a heroin habit.

So for me the only way forwards is subsistence, whilst I manage a small, quite neurodivergent team that is developing a novel table top low energy nuclear fusion device... In ten years of intermittent effort we have done transmutation twice now, (at least according to the DIY spectroscopy, we recognise there is more to be done before we make any public announcements, but we think it might be worth a few quid when we can get it to work more reliably, and er, control the fire risk. 

I also have several other threads of activity, any of which I hope may lead me to sufficient prosperity to (one sunny day) become a "provider" again, rather than the "taker" than I have to be when there is no one else to do my job applications for me...