Being treated like a child

Hello I feel really angry about being treated like a child when I am now almost 20 years of age in April like not being listened to or understood like an adult, a lot of things like some jobs, renting or buying certain cars or other vehicles, cervical screening for women, young drivers no longer being allowed to drive at night time and also children's services being up to 25 when this is getting so stupid as I have read in the past about an article when a lot of people have said before that 25 would never be the new 18 in which I have always found true as we are all adults before we are 25 years of age. I feel like I need to talk to someone or a lot more people a lot about this as I want their opinion about this and what they think and I am hoping a lot of them would agree with me on it and also say that adolescence does not really end at age 25 like they keep saying online or anywhere else.

  • Probably isn't definitely though! It's worth a try? What's the worst than can happen? If they take no notice, you will still be in exactly the same position you are now but you won't have LOST anything? You'll never know if you don't try!   : )   

  • I could but it will probably be a similar answer. 

  • Have you tried talking to the college tutors and telling them that there are some things you no longer feel you need lessons on? (Or write it down if you think the conversation would be a difficult one?)

    When I went into hospital to have my third child, in my 30's, a young nurse about ten years younger than me arrived the next morning to give me a lesson on how to bathe a newborn. As soon as I realised that's what she was doing, I explained to her that I had two children already and had no need to be taught baby bathing.

    She apologised and stopped immediately, leaving me to get on with it on my own but she did explain that it was hospital policy to give all new Mum's this lesson - she didn't know that I was already a Mum and that this was my third child. Sometimes people just need to be given more information and I'm sure that if your tutors knew there were things you didn't need help with, they would stop giving you these lessons.    

  • I understand how you feel, I’m 20 and still get treated like a young teen. I still get lessons on things I don’t need lessons on anymore (e.g. dealing with periods). I am at a special needs college that goes up to 25 and I don’t feel like an adult because I struggle with processing and sometimes teachers aren’t very understanding about it. 

  • I feel like i might be more of a child when it comes to taking responsibility my actions, my thought processes, financial decisions and unable to move on with my life with regards to securing employment, ability to create friends or meaningful conversations, stuck in my room day-to-day on the computer as i'm doomed to stay on this path forever. I look like  a normal person in their mid-20's, well as average as they can get.

    I'm usually left alone to my own devices, but there are times that give me much anxiety when i'm asked to do something, accept it (knowing that it's something i'd rather avoid) and stress builds up because I second-guess myself, thinking to myself "i can't do this, but i'll get compensated for the time I spend doing it" as I really have nothing else to do with my time but stay at home and look for jobs or play online.

    I feel like i may be one those people whose penny drops later in life probably in their 40's, then finally gets how the world works, but by that time it's just too late, the world has moved on far beyond my expertise, skills and knowledge, whilst in the meantime I have to endure these times of uncertainty of whether or not that world will exist.

  • Oh dear! That does sound a bit different to the kinds of things I thought you had meant (such as financial responsibility / budgeting as a teenager). That must have been quite frustrating to cope with indeed! Still, you showed more patience in your account with the pigeons than I'm afraid I might have. 

    My own parents were more of the ... lets say 'neglectful' type (this is a public forum after all and NAS aren't a fan of the four letter descriptors of my parents that I would otherwise use. I don't naturally think of them as 'my parents', more 'the people I was forced to live with as a child' until I was (just) old enough to get the hell out of there! See, no patience as I said. 

    Surprised to see anyone else on here at this hour, normally I wander around looking at old posts until the wee small hours.   

  • You sound like a responsible mature parent.

    My parents had more mental health issues than me.  They ignored facts that I had grown  up.  And just  kept on treating me like a retarded (autistic) infant.

    One ridiculous incident comes to mind.  When I was in my mid thirties, I was walking with my father through a city centre pedestrianised area when a large group of pigeons decended on some discarded food. A small child ran through the group of pigeons scattering them.

    My father turned to me and started shouting at me; "GO CHASE THE PIGEONS, GO GO GO GO"

    I just ignored him, thinking you're mad, you think I'm three years old.

    When we got home he started a row with my mother that there was something wrong with me because I don't play or chase pigeons like other children.

  • I think that (sometimes) parents can get a pass on that. Although I guess, as a parent, I'm a little biased there!

    My eldest children are 24 and 18 and I still think of them as 'The kids'. They'll always be 'my baby girls' although they live independent lives and have homes and partners of their own. I buy them Advent Calendars and Easter chocolates, ask about them eating and sleeping enough and dressing warmly, and have often said to them "Look at you, living your wee life like a real wee person! You're sooo cute!". (They just laugh and shake their heads.) 

    I think, as you say quite rightly, that the difficulty for some parents is in how they treat their 'children' - when it comes to the big things such as encouraging independence. 

    My youngest daughter is 13 and does her own laundry and packing for school boarding every week, sorts her own breakfast and lunches at weekends (I only do the family evening meals.) and is responsible for her own budgeting through the week as well as many other responsibilities that we both feel she's perfectly old enough and mature enough to cope with. All of that whilst still calling her my baby, ruffling her hair, and telling her she's a cutie-pie.

    I don't consider my youngest daughter to be an adult quite yet but not a child either. A young (pre?) adult maybe? As a teenager I think she's quite independent in most day-to-day things but I also think she still needs guidance at this age, nudging / steering in the right directions occasionally rather than leading / taking / pushing her there I guess. 

    From seeing other parents of older 'children' I think sometimes (some) parents keep their children dependent upon them on purpose, seemingly to give themselves a purpose (?). I'm not entirely sure why.     

  • I find it amusing people talking about being treated as children at the various ages, 16, 18, 20, 25 

    I was treated as a child by both my parents all my life until they both passed away.

    They never accepted me as an independent adult.  The real irony was that they were more childlike than me.

  • Hi , I've just Googled what you said about under 25's not being allowed to drive at night.

    This is a proposal being considered at the moment by the government, so there's no guarantee that it will actually become law. Even if it did though, it's not being considered as a total ban for everyone under 25. The idea is that anyone under 25 who passes their driving tests has to wait 2 years before being allowed to drive at night (it might apply only to those carrying passengers, rather than those driving alone). 

    So, for instance, someone who passes their tests at 17 could drive at night at age 19. 

    I don't think there is a "proper age we become adults", the laws in every country are different and even vary enormously within a country - so there is no one, single age we become adults in law. 

    In Scotland, for instance, a person can vote in local elections at age 16 but has to wait until 18 to vote in UK elections. A person can rent a house at age 16 but isn't eligible to pay Council Tax until 18. The age of criminal responsibility in Scotland is 8 years old but only over 18's can serve on a jury. It's a very mixed picture and these laws often don't make much sense when the full picture is considered. 

    'Being' an adult, 'Feeling' like an adult, and 'Considered an adult in Law' are all very different things.  

  • Well nobody told me that I could have cervical screening under 25 in the UK as I thought it was still 25 and also we should not be considered vulnerable up until 25 anyway as we are not children and also I would like for just only a few children's services to be from up to 25 rather than it be all or most of them as it is wrong now as we should still be considered children or vulnerable up to age 18 as this is the proper age we become adults and I would like for a lot of people to start complaining to the government about the new law coming like banning people under 25 from driving at night now and also more other things that need to be improved too.

  • When I was 16 (and already attending university) I thought that it was unfair that I'd have to wait till 18 to be an "adult". It used to be that the only limitation they put on under 25s was renting a car. I think that limiting people's rights because of age borders on age discrimination. You feel frustrated now, and I know this won't help much, but just wait until you're older and wishing you were 18 again. There are lots of people who never really learn to behave in a mature manner, even when they're in their 30s or 40s or older.

  • I think people mature in different ways and at different times. Some people may be physically mature but not emotionally mature, others may be socially mature but not intellectually mature. Everyone is different depending upon their experiences. It's recognised that the brain doesn't stop maturing until a person is about 25 but again this can vary between people. 

    I don't know much about Children's Services (I'm assuming you mean as a department of Social Services?) but I would think that it covers up to age 25 because younger adults are still considered vulnerable up to that age and the Children's Services are perhaps more equipped to support young adults than the wider service may be.

    Perhaps Children's Services can offer young adults better access to resources and funding? I wouldn't expect the intention is to treat young adults as children, although I can see how it may feel like that in certain situations. I think 'checking-up' on young adults could be part of the assessment to determine how independent the person is (or is ready to be) given the new responsibilities they may be coping with at that age. 

    I haven't heard about restrictions on under 25's driving at night. 

    Women can have cervical screening under age 25!! Did someone tell you you couldn't?