National Key Scheme for toilets.

I have had a 'Radar' National Key Scheme key for some time.

I find public toilets impossible, they are smelly and unhygeinic with wet (urine) soaked floors, rudimentary handwashing facilities, and only slightly better than wetting myself. I will only use one when absolutely desperate.   I therefore thought that as I was Autistic I would get a key so I could use the 'disabled' toilet.

Problem is, I cannot bring myself to use it.  I do not have a wheelchair or have physical problems using a 'normal' toilet.  The problems I have are a mental aversion.  On the odd occasion I have used the 'disabled' toilet (what a strange name, it is not the toilet that is disabled, it works perfectly!) it is because the normal one is out of use.  And it has always been a lot cleaner and more pleasant.

So should I just grit my teeth and bear the normal toilets?  Or should I ignore the (perceived) thoughts of those who think I should not use the disabled toilet.  Or is it the case I should not use the disabled toilet at all as they are only intended for those who are physically disabled?

  • I don't get what your issue is. I have a RADAR key. I use it when needed. Who cares what anyone else thinks. 

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  • :-) 

    Thank You for "getting" my pun. There are more possibilities, but I suppose it is too late at night, now...for anymore of this kind of sh*t...? And I usually do not speak using toilet language, as you can read of this Post here. Others may Post similar puns, however, since the weekend is coming....?

    It is almost not fair - it should not be so difficult to start a "lighthearted" Thread upon this site!

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    ;-) 

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    ...Yes you can. But it does make it a little difficult to find such conversation or helpful insights, however. 

    I have said in other Threads that a "Photography" Thread should be begun (or re-begun). I myself am only *told* by others that I am "good" at photography, and so it is not a profession for myself, and so I may talk about starting a Thread yet not do so...

    (I suppose this is a sort of complaint, but, well, it is difficult to tell even for myself even as I am the one writing it...!)

  • Off topic but ...as I started the topic I can go off-topic if I want .....!

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  • I have collected all the receipts I have ever had.

    I have almost all of them.

    It is amazing to know that someone else does the same.

  • I struggle enormously with the lack of privacy in many toilets, but I have always worried that I didn't deserve it, or how I would feel if I walked out to find a wheelchair user waiting.

    I experience exactly the same.

    I tend to avoid drinking whilst out to avoid using toilets. That's my usual method in any public space or someone else's house. I would love more freedom, but don't know if I could bring myself to actually use a key.

    The same here.

    I also need more space as I feel claustrophobic in small spaces.

  • People are going to look down on you and hate you because of the autism anyway.

    Not sure about hate. I hope that people do not hate autistic people.

    But I have felt that people often find my behavior to be strange.

    They often are confused.

  • Oh my word! If you find out which planet your from could you let me know!

    I To need structure but need others to do it for me. My email inbox is 8334 yikes, my pictures are mounting up but I cannot bring myself to delete any, I suffer with dyslexia but mainly short term memory.

    I find patterns in everything I see, I collect things that are not important, currently my obsession is receipts and price tags for all the things I am buying to please me, my new look, Victorian clothing and anything that makes it complete, each time I go shopping I take every receipt write a discription if what the item is in detail,then staple them all together.?

    no idea why.

    I saw a manikin type figure made from plumbing fittings which I find funny but shows imagination to give a smile as well. I found myself thinking it would be good to take pictures of all the ones I could find and archive them with dates and locations and each part used in its creation?

    I also count things when I am stressed, it seems important for me to do all these things but I have no idea why?

    could it be because my memory is so shockingly poor that I try to compensate to try and reinforce it? I am sure most of it is because of my inability to remember things, why must I keep counting letters on a box in front of me? I look at it often, I guess how many letters but never quite trust my guess so am compelled to count to make sure, not always the right guess.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to Robert124

    Ah - Thank you!

     :-) . I am from a different planet. I need structure but find it hard to implement it in my own life. The result is an email inbox with 4803 (just checked) unread emails and a constant struggle not to drown in the surrounding chaos. 

    Maybe I ought to start a new thread on this topic? It seems fascinating to me that there are autistics who endogenically create their structure and those like me who need it so badly but like almost need someone to show them how to go about creating it?

    Until the diagnosis was stamped on me (by no initiation of my own) I never really connected to the world of aspies, as the perceived care, organised and structured way of dealing with special interests is so foreign no me. 

    I have a great love for instance of looking at facades of buildings. But I don't do anything with it (I haven't got a clue about it)

    It is as if my fascination is meaningless looking without organisation. I also have a very bad working and visual memory - I wonder if the two are linked in anyway.

  • I downloaded images to a computer.  Process them, this includes deleting undesirable ones.  Then I back them up onto SD cards that go into tablets and mobile phones.

    I also organise them by year/month and event or place visited.

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to Robert124

    Hi Robert 123 .

    These loos still seem pretty decent to me - in comparison to some of the atrocious things I have come across.

    I mean: there is toilet paper (!!!!) and there' s a functioning seat that can be covered in the toilet paper. The dirt on the floor looks like dirty damp floor with no obvious excrements smeared all over the floor, seat or walls.  There is no sanitary protection littering the floor.

    Top tip number 1: when using a loo with a wet floor: first pull up or fold up your trouser legs if you are wearing trousers before you pull your trousers down :-) 

    Tip 2 you can buy paper toilet seat covers.

    Tip 3: use a tissue to touch doors and locks and taps.

    Tip 4: don't drop anything on the floor :D 

    I like the pictures. I can almost feel the atmosphere there. (And smell it)

    PS I have a question for you

    If you also take pictures of things: my phone automatically uploads everything to I-cloud, I have paid to expand my i-cloud, but because I take too many photo's I don't delete, that is also getting full up and I am feeling stressed about it because I don't have a computer brain.  
    In the old days, I accepted my photo's got lost if I didn't do something about it, but now as it happens automatically I can't bring myself to actually delete them, and the next I-cloud back up is very expensive. Have you got a system?

  • I have often considered getting one of these keys. I struggle enormously with the lack of privacy in many toilets, but I have always worried that I didn't deserve it, or how I would feel if I walked out to find a wheelchair user waiting.

    I tend to avoid drinking whilst out to avoid using toilets. That's my usual method in any public space or someone else's house. I would love more freedom, but don't know if I could bring myself to actually use a key.

    I have occasionally used disabled toilets, but only ones that were already open. I think the key is the extra element that would worry me and make me feel guilty, but so many places do use this scheme which limits options if you don't have one. 

  • I have to agree.  If you have a key,. Use it!

    Disabled toilets tend to be larger and cleaner and less busy.

    The general public toilets are often a mess.  I have come across toilets that have flooded floors (both water and the other stuff) this means a clear slip hazard.  I have seen toilet seats missing, cubilble doors that don't lock, no toilet paper, toilets that are unflushed because they don't flush. *** on floor and seat!

  • People are going to look down on you and hate you because of the autism anyway. You might as well give them a reason to feel badly toward you. It's not as if you are going to meet any of them again anyway.

    Everyone has a right to a clean toilet. You have a key so that you can exercise that right for yourself. If others want to have a clean toilet to use, they should petition the proprietor to maintain their toilets better.

    I say go for it. I would not hesitate for a second if I had a magic key.

  • I would feel extremely uncomfortable in ones like these.

    Especially, if someone else could come in at any time.

    I feel very vulnerable in toilets.

    I do not understand why people like to write rude things or graffiti on the walls. This is so upsetting. I like nice walls.

  • Also I never use urinals as They give no privacy at all.
    I expect to do what all humans have to do with privacy and a level of cleanliness.

    The same here.

  • I do face another problem with public toilets and that is complete lack of privacy.

    I experience the same. This is a huge problem for me in public same sex toilets.

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