Living a life "outside of the system".

yeah i bet you its all talk though, when the going gets tough and war comes men will be sacrificed again, men will be made to do the hard graft and the bleeding. there is no equality, men still get the raw deal.... i for one am fine in the traditions being broken as id prefer rather someone else do the work while i stay at home and be the house pet with no worries or stress lol 

Thanks Allyboo

I will look at reviews of that but  I  won't be able to read it as I am no longer able to concentrate on factual books.

I've lived through 6 decades now and my memories go back to the pram, so I've seen society change a great deal.

I'm more content with society as it is now than it was when I was growing up, but i know a lot of people see the past as a better place.

In case you are interested, I made a thread on  the subject:

https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/30113/what-era-would-you-like-to-live-in-and-why/321052#321052

As with many "ism's", "feminism" seems after some decades of oberservation, (obviously I can't participate sucessfully, as I lack the neccesary genetic equipment) to exact a heavy price for those who overdose on it... 

The traditional Masculine roles placed quite heavy responsibilities on men, which have now been discarded, and thanks to "feminism", not only women have been "freed" from the shackles of traditional roles.

I being oldschool, might well still help the women and children into the lifeboats ahead of my own need, but I no longer HAVE TO... Along with a whole slew of other instances where I no longer HAVE TO. 

We have more choices in how we conduct our lives than ever before*, isn't it wonderful?

*Unless I want to fly my drone over my own back garden, then I find out how "choices" really work in this society... 

(just a personal grumble. No system is perfect..)

wasnt womens roles long ended by the 60s due to the fact the traditional roles were upended in ww2 way back in the 30s to 40s?

by the 60s they were long changed wasnt they? by the 60s it was more a push for sexual liberation and the casualisation of having sex with everyone wasnt it? lol

Taking Introvert to Hyperbole.

That's the issue with people using Nightclubs to get a date. Eventually, we no longer become mutually compatible.

Basically, an inshore Sealand?

A book I especially like about all this kind of thing is 'The Selfish Society: How we all forgot to love one another and made money instead' by Sue Gerhardt  

Have you ever considered that it might be possible for us to make our own system? Sometime ago I was thinking what an autistic nation or at least an autistic city might look like. But then I realised building an autistic town is actually feasible if you had the money. In the UK there are things called restrictive land covenants. You could set up a charity dedicated to providing services to autistic people, it could purchased undeveloped land near to where its services are being provided, get planning permission for buildings and then sell on the land to developers but with a restrictive covenant that the land can only be used for residential purposes by autistic persons or their near family. Since the equality act allows you to treat disabled people more favorably than non-disabled people this would be legal I think. And a covenant can be enforced as long as enforcer derives benefit from the covenant to their land which in this case would be the benefit of having autistic people near the services that the charity provides. So no matter how many times the land was sold on it could still only be lived in by autistic people so long as the charity remains providing services in the area.

Hypothetically it could grow large enough to be a town of autistic people. At which point you would end up having an autistic counsel. The social services would be run by autistic people, if it got large enough possibly even its own police force although you do generally need to get to county size for that which seems unlikely.

If a charity had tons of money it could just start buying farmland in the middle of nowhere off some motorway and basically turn a patch of countryside into an autistic city.

I feel like "The System" is like a complex board game. It has a lot of components, which are extremely beneficial to those few who know how they work and so use them to live perfect lives.

For everyone else (especially autistics), you have to make waaayyyy too many choices with flowon effects that you can't predict until much later.

www.holidayfox.com/.../alternative-lifestyles-which-allow-you-to-travel-and-stay-close-to-nature

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/03/the-rise-of-woodland-off-gridders-it-makes-more-sense-than-a-nine-to-five

https://lackancottage.co.uk/off-grid-living/

https://www.thepublicpurse.org.uk/general/living-off-the-grid-can-it-be-done-in-the-uk/

The Class War concept, promoted by Universities and Thespians. Usurping the Market, from within. 

Inflation is meant to debase currencies, prime examples being Zimbabwe and Venezuela. 

It's like Loadsamoney, making fun of the Eighties Plasterer who just did a bit, at the end, and got the Wad. 

Yes, very good point. I think both the old ways and the modern ways take away that element of choice in one way or another 

I Sperg said:

The money system is designed (theoretically) so that the people get rewarded for hard work

not quite.... it doesnt care whether you work hard or not... its just a basic system of proof of work.... having money is a proof of work system, a paper that you can take and trade for things you need that proves you have worked for it to earn whatever item you want to trade for it.

although work doesnt seem to get you enough of it.... and they give it to people who dont work for free, which destroyed the concept of proof of work.... and the lowest paid seems to be the hardest worker, while the ones that get most money dont work but instead invest it and make the  money gain more money, which this turns it into a proof of stake system.

The element of choice is key.

That is such a true post, thank you for sharing

Goosey said:

I've tried integrating in to the system but people don't want me or they mistreated me so I've stopped trying now.

I just want to live a happy and peaceful life in my own way

I identify with this so much. All we are all trying to do is live our own way and society wont let us 

I agree with you about self sufficiecny. I question whether all women were "trapped" in their roles. I know many women who prefer and fill more fulfilled by traditional roles of being a wife and mother and building a home (not all women of course but some) and actually feel more trapped by the modern society and economic neccesity that forces them to go out to work even if they actually want to stay home and look after their children.

There are 2 different aspects to this discussion. 

The 1960s 

I Sperg said:

The older systems of social life as practiced still elsewhere in the world, are a lot more "family freindly" and less likely to make you "homeless" than our western progressive way of living since the sixties)

This is way removed from your title of 'living outside the system' as people (particularly women) were trapped in constrained roles designated by 'society' and were therefore rigidly encased in 'the system'.

Living outside the system to my mind is a self-sufficient off-grid community or commune.

Good luck with finding that perfect balance :) 

I'm trying to do the same thing

I've tried integrating in to the system but people don't want me or they mistreated me so I've stopped trying now.

I just want to live a happy and peaceful life in my own way

My MH team are trying to get me in to society and normal but I know all the masking in the world won't make that possible.

We are who we are and should be free to live the way we want whether society agrees or not ^^