Hoarding

Since winter is coming up, and Gary Clails "Everyone needs Food, Clothes and Shelter" is a good starting point, you need suffcient food to withstand supply chain disruptions, (3 weeks, alledgely) and a plan to obtain more before that runs out. You should have enough clothes already, but shelter includes heating, & fresh water (AND as far as I am concerned) electricity. Accordingly I have multiple ways of generatng electricity, depending on available fuel. NO electricity = no gas fired central heating or freezer, so you will need about 300watts minimum power generation capacity at 240V. For those of you with generators, here's how you run your entire house* off a tiny generator during a power outage. *no kettle, shower or electric heating of any kind. No 500W patio security lamp. No power tools, no dope growing.. Just the essentials.

FIRST and most importantly you turn the big main incoming isolator OFF. IF you can't do that you shouldn't be trying this.

SECONDLY, you make an extension lead that runs from your generator to the nearest ringmain socket and put a plug on both ends, making the most dangerous extention lead known to man. ON one plug you inscribe it thus DO NOT UNPLUG and plug that into your house socket. the second plug goes into to your generator. Connect at house first, disconnect at generator first.

• This is MASSIVELY dangerous if anyone disconnects the house plug when the generator is running, I cannot stress that enough, and expect fireworks if that isolation switch isn't thrown and they get the power back on.

But on the last three times we had power cuts, my suitcase generator ran the fridge, the TV set, some lights and the central heating... This winter if my neighbours provide fuel, I can supply both houses next to me, to at least give them the basics. (2A @240V) which puts three sets of motivated eyes on the generator.

Your main survival resource unfortunately is other people. I expect my fairly decent survival and technical skills to be highly tradeable and in the event of serious civil disruption have already made arrangements to form an alliance with the local minor criminal set, with a site picked out with good "fields of fire" and a defensible perimiter. 

Self defence unfortunately, will become a major priority for anyone who seems to be "getting by too easily" which is why I've formed the alliance that I have..  In this country we are very limited as to the weaponry we can own, but not in the knowledge and skills one can acquire, so I've declined to hoard weapons, choosing instead to acquire the skills to quickly improvise a variety of projectile and explosive based weapons, a well as an effective design of spear, which gives me a short dash to self protection if the rule of law breaks down, and full compliance with the very sensible laws we currently live under, if it does not break down. Tooling yourself beforehand (attractive an idea as it may seem at first glance) is just weirdo and "cheating" sort of behaviour, quite unbecoming of a decent british citizen. If you do not consider these issues though, you may as well not bother "prepping" at all.

One ideal would be to have a wood fired gravity heating system plumbed in parallel to your regular nat gas heater. Bonus if it's based on a rayburn type cooker/heater. 

All this is quite bleak sounding, but you can only help others if you are all sorted out yourself.

Only take in people who will work with you and can demonstrate and will provide useable skills for the benefit of your growing "tribe". One reason I want thieves in my group..        

Robert, the best thing you could do would be to switch off all these so-called 'news' channels and stations.  Their primary objective is to terrify and panic you with one made-up crisis after another, one tragedy after another, one scandal after another so that you are weakened by fear and cynicism and are compelled to keep watching. This is their business model. Nothing they report is a true. It is always distortion of reality. It is a profit-driven global industry which fabricates horror and tragedy in order to maintain its cynical and fearful viewership.  There is no need to hoard anything whatsoever. Simply stop watching these pernicious broadcasts. Your life will change for the better within the space of a week. 

And a big thick candle with a burn time of 70hours.  Just in case the lights go out this winter.

sorted then 

i fully approve  its a massive improvement

Today I bought a 3 month supply of non perishable items: soap, toothpaste, bubble bath and cotton buds.

I explained this in another post.

Last week I  asked one of our 'deleted' colleagues why he kept changing his name.

His answer was, 'because I can', so I tried it and it worked.  All my old posts also have my new name.

u changed your number from 123 to 124   ----- how dare you

I will explain the context of my obsessions.

My mother was a big hoarder, in the 1970s we had the three day week, power cuts, winter of discontent. It all affected her.  We had large stocks of flour( which went mouldy after a few years), salt, sugar, candles ( I still have this stock of 40 year old candles), cutlery, shoes, tea towels, bedding, towels, pasta( we threw out 20 year old pasta when she passed).

I'm trying to build up a six month stock of non perishable goods, soap, toilet paper, cleaning products, toothpaste etc.

Thank God I live in the Countryside.

dont use nettles !!!!!! 

i already have a hoard of candles from several mini incidents and i keep buying candles for when i have a candlemaking wave/obsession.

there will always be enough food in western society I have found.

i still have a hoard of toilet roll which i still am working through

aye, but if a zombie outbreak or a killer virus comes then cities are a no go zone and wont be effective. plus collapse of civilisation would make cities dangerous either way and into a free for all kill zone. and as for nuclear war cities are the places that will be targeted.all in all in danger situations cities are the danger hot spots.

While I would favour going off-grid, if the situation arises, I would favour a traditional model of self-governing cities; each with resources as currency. ('Salary' comes from the fact the Romans used salt as currency)

Again, these stories are being twisted by mainstream media to create more Derpism at the Supermarkets.

While there is concern about the wreckless printing of fiat money, I wouldn't go into pandemonium. The media may be up to their old tricks again.

I saw a YouTube Video overnight about how a Christian Man found a job that had members who coaxed him into an Occult Society. In the end, he turned to his faith - inspired by Joshua turning to the Lord, and prospering as a result, then resigned from that job and ended up getting another offer from a job he applied for six months before.

"He who controls the media controls the mind!" (Jim Morrisson)

uk.finance.yahoo.com/.../energy-crisis-britain-running-empty-104600977.html

I want at least six months supply of everything.

To be extremely blunt - wiping your bum on something other than toilet paper will not hurt you, so don't worry about that!

The tap water is not going to get cut off. Rainwater is drinkable.

Having a couple of weeks' food around is a good idea.

Having a solar panel, battery, and a vegetable garden is a much better idea.

think on it logically and reasonably, a what if scenerio.... although this is heading to prepper areas now lol

first of all if society collapses you need to ensure you have a safe place. work on perhaps making some form of bunker under your house or in your garden or buy a plot of land somewhere where you can make a out of the way hideout with possible crop growing land. then ofcourse once you have safe space, then you seek to horde none perishable food, years worth, to hide in your little bunker or hidey hole place. so that when society collapses you have both a safe space and the years and years worth of food. ofcourse water source too. then your all set for a societal collapse.

now as for a economic collapse and hyper inflation and collapse of currency, your going to need to branch out some of your monetary wealth into assets, like maybe crypto currency or something. a alternate source of wealth or coinage not tied to banks of government. which is what crypto was made for really... that way when currency collapses becomes worthless like african money, and this can happen ya know, it happened a few times in europe and america, and was even the source of the issues that caused germany to go crazy. and ofcourse the great depression in america and so on, banks refused to give people their money as banks didnt have it and left peopel to starve, and so the introduction and existance of crypto currency solves this. so for this scenerio youd need crypto, or other assets, maybe even land as land is a great asset that can save your value during economic collapse as land always retains value and grows in worth. so even buying land all over the place to put value into land as a safe haven from economic collapse is a good idea on that one.