Greetings anyone. Anyone who knows Me on here, may recall that I often say that although I am here, I know little about Social Media and The Internet. This Thread asks a simple question, and I hope for a simple(-ish) answer...
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I Myself sometimes "Shutdown" (I quit interaction when I can neither Reason nor 'Run away'.). But I have never to My memory had a "Meltdown", so I know less about that... I have read other Threads about it on here. ...But as I say, I have never connected the two together - Meltdown + While Using The Internet...??
I keep this OP short in hope again that it does not go off topic, much if at all. As usual, I offer apology in advance for any misunderstandings, and I try to present reasonable explanation for anything if possible... but I cannot do that if I know nothing about the subject, which is why I am asking this here. Try to Stay Well, anyone reading.
I personally can manage to have a meltdown while also having a conversation, though the ‘conversation’ is usually of a somewhat hysterical nature and probably the cause of said meltdown. I think everyone’s meltdown’s are different in terms of severity but generally follow the sameish pattern. What I have now come to recognise as me having a meltdown is when I get totally overwhelmed, either by extreme anxiety (though I’ve now learned to pre-empt these ones which helps with making changes to avoid having the actual meltdown) or when situations spin suddenly and unexpectedly out of control. I always end up sobbing uncontrollably, if it’s the second cause and another person has caused it by their actions then I also usually end up screaming hysterically at them with quite a lot of swear words involved. When I’ve had really back ones I’ve ended up clawing my own face and leaving scratch marks, in my late teens and early 20’s I’d have superficially self harmed too whilst in this state. Even now while I’m in the meltdown state I have quite alien thoughts of wanting to go and jump off the railway bridge, just to get rid of the horrible feeling, anything to get away from that feeling! I need to walk for a long time to get rid of that horrible restless energy and I have to be on my own for at least a couple of hours with no stimulation in order to calm myself down. If anyone interferes and starts saying stupid things then it just prolongs everything. Once it’s passed I have to find an activity to engage in to distract myself, doing something online or whatever, just something to switch my attention, also on my own with no distraction. I would be able to text or type if I had to though during most of that. Hope this answer helps.
THANK YOU for this answer. It is... well, awful to read, but I read it and understand. As I say, I have never had one (a Meltdown), and the more I read and see about them, I do not want one... this sounds silly, but, as You also say that the stressors are recognised, then that is what I do.
It is like having allergies and knowing the Allergen, or something...
Might You have any insights into the Main Question, however, which is as if having a Meltdown yet at the same time still being able to manage, um, "fine motor coordination" (i.e. typing and using a smartphone)...? This is again a daft seeming question, but I do not have one of those either (a Smartphone) and so do not know how I would use it if extremely stressed. (Apart from putting it away.) :-/
As I already said at the bottom of my previous answer. I could through most of what I described above maintain the ability to type or use a smartphone to text. I don’t know how or why. I guess maybe texting/typing is less personal and less stimulating than talking to an actual person and uses a different part of the brain.
...Thank You again. This was what I was really wondering. I have no concept of this because I avoided both things (Meltdowns and Internet) at the same time.
...I say this at everyone whom I reply to in quick succession... I am not good at chit-chat, and become nervous. But You helped Me first here, and I should do well not to forget that. Meantime, I might sign off or come back later to see how this Thread develops, if it does. I am prone to Upvoting, and so I did that.
My problem with the Internet is that I cannot see/judge how people are feeling, and so I still do not much like it... even as I am here now. I have begun many Threads before about that, and so am not discussing that here. Thank You So Much for answering the Main Question & Good Fortune to You, Mr/Miss "Kitsun"!
My experience is that I can have a meltdown because of what is said on the forum, but I can also think about what I am saying here at the same time.
If things get very bad, I just don't post at all for a few hours. However things can still wind me up, and when they do the memory of it is still firmly implanted so I tend to get wound up when something triggers the experience long, long after ... even years.
I don't know, from what I've read of other people's experiences meltdowns seem to be as varied as the people that have them. For that reason alone I'd guess its possible. My experience is almost entirely inward focused if they are proper meltdowns, I get extremely anxious and feel like I'm shrinking inside my head as if there is some kind of void between me and the world. If I can't get away from whatever situation caused it I start to feel every source of input overwhelming and suffer from very aggressive unwanted thoughts about how useless etc I am and how I should end it all. On the outside though there is not much sign of anything other than me getting quieter and distant unless the tears burst through. I probably could still use the Internet but it wouldn't occur to me to do so as I'll likely be trying to cut myself off for the world
I am not autistic. But when I get severely angry or upset I couldn't work a smartphone, or computer mostly because my body kicks it's fight or flight response in and I get so terrified my hands are physically shaking to much to type! I literally can't even force myself to stop them.
When my daughter has a meltdown it is hysterical crying and screaming alongside kicking and flailing there is no coherent speech from her these are normally followed by a short period of shutdown. But she is only 8
This is what happens to me - I mask very well so I'm programmed not to show weakness so there's no external signs of meltdown - but there is so much turmoil happening inside mt head that I withdraw into myself.
If I'm at home, I have the tv on silent so I can watch it, I have youtube on the computer so I've got things to listen to and I surf the net all at the same time to try to drown out the self-destructive thoughts. Trying to overload the senses. I tend to jiggle like all of the muscles want to fight or flight but cannot decide a direction. I also tend to scratch myself (old excema programme) until I bleed. I find it impossible to communicate during all this. Too much brain noise to think clearly.
Oh yes I can, the meltdowns for me are perhaps more letting off steam due to the perception of:-
To close and imposing by those in power.
Not felt listened to - my needs and nothing more
TOO MUCH INFORMATION
condescension and dictatorship rather than combined collaboration in a supportive way
I know what I am good at, so do others in the Business, as well as where I need help FROM DAMAGEMENT. FFS listen to me, read the signs, spot the body language and STOP/LOOK/LISTEN otherwise the Hulk comes out to play.
I can then go back into my world of work to de-stress
What you’ve said are your triggers would apply to me too, but usually in the home environment rather than work. Massive triggers for me include: People not listening; people giving completely irrational reasons for their decisions and actions despite the rational way having been pointed out clearly and concisely by myself; people behaving in irrational ways just to be antagonistic (in my opinion); people trying to impose their view or will onto me when I don’t agree and don’t want to do whatever it is because I don’t agree with it; people giving me too much information at once and taking ages to do so.