the barriers to employment

Again referring to the news item on the website about the Queen's Speech, and the issue of getting more people on the spectrum into full time work - could we have a discussion in here (whether or not NAS is reading what we say), about the nature of the barriers.

I think a big issue is the lack of collective social knowledge - people on the spectrum are isolated from the social exchanges that usually enable people to interpret and apply management requests, job tasks, work politics etc.

If you don't socially interact effectively you miss out on a lot of conversation about what a task really entails, or how a job should be interpreted for collective harmony, or what are the work political/social implications implications of doing a job a certain way. You also miss out on collective insight about personalities, how to handle certain managers, who not to cross.

Someone on the spectrum usually has to decide how to interpret things for themselves, which invariably places them in the position of being different from their fellow workers, and very probably at odds or in conflict, or misunderstood, or resented, or mistrusted.

I keep hearing that people with autism can be given written instructions, or an app, or some other facility that will overcome the difficulties.

I personally doubt if it is that simple. I don't see much real understanding of work-place situations.

I know I harp on and on about these things, but having worked a lifetime, I've seen difficulties that these simple solutions cannot possibly alleviate.

Anyone else have any insights as to how we get more people with autism into full time work (given the Conservatives have pledged to halve the employment gap for disability)

  • I have had a lot of experiences where I seem to irritate people but have no idea why (or they may be irritated by something else entirely and I may worry it's to do with me).  I usually either ignore it or I seek clarification from a sympathetic co-worker or my partner.  For me this lack of collective insight and allround reading of social cues makes it constantly confusing and isolating, and I build up anxiety as I progress through a job until I usually get to breaking point and leave.  I am a very decent person who always acts in a sincere and helpful way.  But frequently I am accused of being unhelpful as I don't automatically understand inference and therefore what I am being asked to do.  From my perspective it would be useful to have better education of people re. the subtle manifestations of social communication difficulties, as well as to have trained 'mentors' to help prevent confusion and therefore a build up of anxiety.  Ditto for sarcasm- this confuses me, to the entertainment of some people.  It would help to have mentors who could guide in the area of socialising at work too- I usually withdraw as I feel I can't trust anyone as I never know anyone well enough and people are too unpredictable.  

    I also feel it would be helpful to have a quiet room to go to if common rooms are too much, and for it to be perfectly acceptable to use this.  I'm sure lots of people could benefit from this, not just those on the spectrum.

    I have no idea how this currently works for people with specific needs in work- but feel it would be useful for me to have a plan drawn up with management with potential areas of difficulty and how they will be addressed- and this should be automatic for any people with a disability.  As there may be lots of areas that are affected but in small ways, which together make for a larger daily challenge of going to work and finding a lot of things a little bit difficult.