Diagnostic Assessment without childhood caregivers

Hello,

I just wanted to know a range of experiences from those of you who are late to discover they may have autism or late diagnosed who didn’t have childhood caregivers during the assessment.

Both my parents passed away (I’m almost 50 now) and there are no other family who can validate my childhood behavior.

wondered if the lack of childhood information affected a positive diagnosis for people? I have lots of examples to tell them and some school reports but that’s it. It’s not a great thought really that no parents around = more difficult diagnosis. 

thank you Pray tone2 

  • Yes my parents would also been the same if they were still alive. Autism? Neurodivergence don’t make me laugh type of thing. What would the neighbours think woman facepalming: medium-light skin tonewoman facepalming: medium-light skin tonewoman facepalming: medium-light skin tone good to hear that you didn’t parental input anyway.

    I havnt had my assessment yet - I’m still waiting but feeling worried in case they won’t carry it out without parents. 

  • This is just so in in ethical in my view and rather discriminatory. The assessors should be improving their knowledge and skills set to be able to diagnose someone in your case. Ridiculous but I am glad you’ve found someone who is capable

  • I just had my assessment. One of the assessors said she wouldn't see me without a parent or someone who knew me as a child. For me this was just not possible. 

    The clinic found me another assessor who was happy to look at school reports and information from someone who has known me for around 20 years. 

  • Hi, I had an NHS assessment last year at the age of 57. My mother is 80 and doesn’t really accept autism, she still can’t say the word. I have all my school reports but didn’t use them, they mainly just say I was quiet.
    I was assessed with no parental involvement,  the section in the forms from a childhood informant were returned to them blank. my wife sat in on the end of the second session and really just verified what I had said.

    My wife’s input was more to build up more of a picture of me and as support when I was told the outcome.They said they didn’t normally give the results on the day but I was an easier diagnosis and they had already decided by lunchtime.

    I read your other post, you really need to appeal and ask for a further opinion. Personally I don’t think the assessor treated you fairly.

  • My assessor replied to me, that for her the statements of the family members in an adult assessment are insignificant because they are often distorted. Tge family members often don't remember well or just don't accept the possibility of their child/sibling being autistic. She wrote, the most important thing is to ask right questions and observe the patient herself. I collect as much documentation as I can. Now I can see, that even these documents that seemed to be irrelevant,  may actually help me.

  • Ok that is good to know and good they check on mental health from time to time 

  • Hello yes that is an idea I’d not thought of. I also had lots of medical care as a child thank you Pray tone2

  • I was diagnosed in my late 40s in 2022 and I had my father write me a letter. You  could may be ask for your medical records as you haven't mentioned that. I got mine and I found I had medical admissions and a lot of appointments as an infant. This helped as well. I got my paper notes as it was all written in hand at that time. If you have a friend they do speak to friends at well They wanted to speak to an old school friend once. 

  • Thank you for sharing. It’s really not a good situation and I think the system needs a re think to make the assessment easier for people considering the challenges they are facing. It’s almost like the struggles we face in daily life - being misunderstood and judged continue into the assessment which I find baffling. Wishing you all the best anyway

  • Thank you Amy23 that’s really helpful good to hear of your experiences as I think so many have the same worries. 

  • I had a very long form to fill in at the beginning when I joined the waiting list. Then just a couple of weeks ago, many more questions to answer on a form. I have the asssessment via a teams meeting and apparently it is related to ADOS assessment. I get regular messages asking me to answer a couple of questions on my current mental health. 

  • I'm living in Germany. Some providers (mostly those paid by insurance) won't start the process, if there is no family member to fill out the form for you. If I try on insurance,  I would have waited at least 2 years. I have some savings. I don't like travelling,  I hate shopping, I don't spend money on any entertainment so at least I spend it on myself (health care). I'm not German,  so I don't even know how would they accept translation (I would probably have to pay myself for translations). I actually have to clarify this point with this provider, but I mentioned in my first email, that im not German and my origin.

  • Hello,

    Both my parents had passed away by the time I had my assessment. I asked my younger brother to fill out the form, with him being younger he couldn't answer some of the questions or give any details in a lot of them.

    It did worry me that it didn't provide much of a picture of my early childhood from a family members point of view & i didn't have any school reports either. Nevertheless I was diagnosed as autistic at my accessment.

    All the best with your accessment.

  • This sounds positive from the psychologist…also wishing you lots of luck. You will be OK when you’re in there talking about yourself maybe? I’m also thinking about going private as I can’t wait 2 years. So do some providers force you to have an informant? Which country are you in? It all seems so disjointed 

  • Love your last sentence Joy they do make it feel this way don’t they. Ok great I have lots of memories similar mine mainly around pattern recognition, stimming and not really playing - I preferred giving my toys tasks and liJoyng them up Joy plus a million other things. It’s not a nice feeling that you feel like you have to prove yourself. Good to hear your perspective 

  • Aww I hope it’s not too stressful for you and wishing you all the best thanks for your reply Pray tone2 so do you have to provide them with a written account? I’ve not been told what to expect other than waiting list of up to two years 

  • I agree my parents wouldn’t have done it either. Maybe as a child but not as adult. Plus they didn’t understand their own emotions let alone mine. I mean my dad was born during WW2 and had a particular mindset. 

    Agreed the system needs changing it’s a bit discriminating and makes it difficult for those struggling as it is. 

    Yes, I’ve read about young people who wouldn’t be comfortable doing it with their parents involved. What an awful situation to be in. 

  • Hi, im Awaiting my assessment and the psychologist is fine with my school reports and some other evidence, for exampleold photos. I have an email from a family member about me, how I was as a toddler, and copies of my drawings from my childhood. She wrote, she understands that many adults don't have any informant or their family members deny the possibility of them being autistic. I wish you luck. I'm myself nervous about it all.

    It depends on the provider. I'm going private for few reasons, one of the reasons is lack of informant (here where im living they require a family member).

  • I was diagnosed having only a 90+ year old aunt living, who I would not have dreamed of disturbing just to fill out some forms, so I just said that on starting infant school I was selectively mute at school for three months and used to spin around on my own in the playground. This seemed to be enough. The assessor(s) just need an indication that you had autistic traits in early childhood. Your own recollections should be enough, it isn't a court of law requiring sworn witness statements.