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Now I'm scared

TheCatWoman

Starmer has announced that he's introducing digital ID cards and as yet theres no alterantive for those of us with no smart phones, althought "they're going to consult" on it, who with or how we don't know. But quite frankly this news has me really scared, terriied, I'm shaking and may have to take some anti-anxiety meds. 

I can see a situation where my Mum, me and a few of our neighbours are going to be illegal in our own country and unable to access services.

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  • I'm not scared, I'm angry. Because we rent, we had to pay for new passports when ours expired so that we would be able to prove ID when we moved home. Now apparently those expensive documents aren't enough to prove who we are, because apparently it's easy to forge them! So if they become invalid, will we get a refund? 

    From the articles I've read it appears that these new digital IDs will be required to get a job or rent a home, mainly to stop illegal immigration. But what if a wealthy foreigner wants to move here and buy a home? Is it different rules for the rich?

    I don't want to get a job (I'm retired) and hope I never have to move again, so I can't see a reason for me to have one.

    I can't see how it would work for access to the NHS, as it wouldn't be right to turn away patients if their phone has been lost or stolen, or they are elderly or vulnerable and don't have a smartphone. We already have NHS numbers for identification - that should be enough. And if immigration is controlled by other means, there should not be a significant strain on the NHS.

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  • I'm not scared, I'm angry. Because we rent, we had to pay for new passports when ours expired so that we would be able to prove ID when we moved home. Now apparently those expensive documents aren't enough to prove who we are, because apparently it's easy to forge them! So if they become invalid, will we get a refund? 

    From the articles I've read it appears that these new digital IDs will be required to get a job or rent a home, mainly to stop illegal immigration. But what if a wealthy foreigner wants to move here and buy a home? Is it different rules for the rich?

    I don't want to get a job (I'm retired) and hope I never have to move again, so I can't see a reason for me to have one.

    I can't see how it would work for access to the NHS, as it wouldn't be right to turn away patients if their phone has been lost or stolen, or they are elderly or vulnerable and don't have a smartphone. We already have NHS numbers for identification - that should be enough. And if immigration is controlled by other means, there should not be a significant strain on the NHS.

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  • in reply to Lotus

    It wouldn't be about wealth but about legality. If a poor person migrated here legally they would be able to be here on a visa or apply for citizenship if they meet the requirements same as a rich person could. 

    This is all to try and reduce the illegal boat crossings and manage the numbers of people migrating here. 

    However, there are some people saying that it won't help and their logic is pretty sound. Illegal immigrants will still manage to find work illegally but they would like be pushed into the darkness to work for dodgier employers that could put them at serious risk. And as long as some sort of work is an option people will still risk the boat journey to get here.

    It's a really sad situation. People shouldn't need to flee their homes to be safe and find jobs. But the UK is also a small country and it cannot house this many migrants indefinitely. There also needs to be way of keeping track of immigrants and their status in order to keep them and others safe. Who knows what the actual solution to this is.