How do you ask a woman out on a date?

Yes, I agree that there is a very good possibility that it could be 'flirting'. But unfortunately the world is getting more dangerous for men to respond 'in like fashion' and flirting back, even if all the signs seems to point that way. I know at railway stations there are posters saying that men could be apprehended by the police for even looking at a woman the wrong way and causing her to feel discomfort. So even more reason why I keep my head low and maybe try to catch an eye if I'm feeling foolhardy enough.

But with the example given, I'd reiterate what's been shared on here. Exchange like for like: 'nice coat, nice hair'. That sounds good. If she's interested she'll probably try to make small talk so persevere. One step at a time. Good luck!

What would be classed as "the wrong way"?

That's the question. I think they must mean something like 'staring with intent'. All very Orwellian but apparently all necessary to ensure that women are made to feel safe.

Mark (formerly Spikey) said:

I think there should be some sort of award for people who can manage to fall over in a lift. That's quite a feat!

I'm due an award simply for the many many times I've fallen over.

I think I've fallen over on most of my holidays abroad too.

Mark (formerly Spikey) said:

I'd let people on the tube first ("after you!") and not be able to get on myself.

Bless you.

I think there should be some sort of award for people who can manage to fall over in a lift. That's quite a feat!

I grew up up North and moved down South about 20 years ago. My wife would laugh and be slightly annoyed because I'd let people on the tube first ("after you!") and not be able to get on myself.

ACF85 said:

Will be half yearning to look at people, half yearning to look away, as always, and castigating myself for most likely coming across as unnerving and quite possibly 'toxic', as seems to be the latest adjective for people with an unwanted presence. Always safe to bury myself in a book, as usual. Occasionally risking a glance at people to reassure me that I'm not alone in this universe.

I was wondering if you live in the south of England?

My home city is Portsmouth and it has a reputation for unfriendliness - I tend to be looked at as though I am slightly deranged if I talk to anyone (I am slightly deranged).

I've travelled a bit in the north and I've found Birmingham (decades ago) and Harrogate and Edinburgh (in recent years) vastly more friendly.

I nearly fell over in Harrogate when someone actually spoke to me in a lift!

London can be the pits.

I'll find out this evening when I'm out and about on the trains as I go to visit my children. Will be half yearning to look at people, half yearning to look away, as always, and castigating myself for most likely coming across as unnerving and quite possibly 'toxic', as seems to be the latest adjective for people with an unwanted presence. Always safe to bury myself in a book, as usual. Occasionally risking a glance at people to reassure me that I'm not alone in this universe.

Simply making eye contact wouldn't get you into trouble. Direct eye contact for a prolonged period of time would make anyone uncomfortable, and I know we have a pop at neurotypicals for that but most of them don't really care (in my experience anyway).

A big reason why I try to avoid direct eye contact because I know there's a good chance it will get me in trouble. Especially with my 'magnetic eye stare' which I sometimes forget about before it's too late.

A big reason why I try to avoid direct eye contact because I know there's a good chance it will get me in trouble. Especially with my 'magnetic eye stare' which I sometimes forget about before it's too late.

Mark (formerly Spikey) said:

I think there should be some sort of award for people who can manage to fall over in a lift. That's quite a feat!

I'm due an award simply for the many many times I've fallen over.

I think I've fallen over on most of my holidays abroad too.

Mark (formerly Spikey) said:

I'd let people on the tube first ("after you!") and not be able to get on myself.

Bless you.

I think there should be some sort of award for people who can manage to fall over in a lift. That's quite a feat!

I grew up up North and moved down South about 20 years ago. My wife would laugh and be slightly annoyed because I'd let people on the tube first ("after you!") and not be able to get on myself.

ACF85 said:

Will be half yearning to look at people, half yearning to look away, as always, and castigating myself for most likely coming across as unnerving and quite possibly 'toxic', as seems to be the latest adjective for people with an unwanted presence. Always safe to bury myself in a book, as usual. Occasionally risking a glance at people to reassure me that I'm not alone in this universe.

I was wondering if you live in the south of England?

My home city is Portsmouth and it has a reputation for unfriendliness - I tend to be looked at as though I am slightly deranged if I talk to anyone (I am slightly deranged).

I've travelled a bit in the north and I've found Birmingham (decades ago) and Harrogate and Edinburgh (in recent years) vastly more friendly.

I nearly fell over in Harrogate when someone actually spoke to me in a lift!

London can be the pits.

I'll find out this evening when I'm out and about on the trains as I go to visit my children. Will be half yearning to look at people, half yearning to look away, as always, and castigating myself for most likely coming across as unnerving and quite possibly 'toxic', as seems to be the latest adjective for people with an unwanted presence. Always safe to bury myself in a book, as usual. Occasionally risking a glance at people to reassure me that I'm not alone in this universe.

Simply making eye contact wouldn't get you into trouble. Direct eye contact for a prolonged period of time would make anyone uncomfortable, and I know we have a pop at neurotypicals for that but most of them don't really care (in my experience anyway).