Published on 12, July, 2020
Yes we all know when the legal definition is, but to me its about so many other things.
Becoming an adult is a process, and not something that happens on your 18th birthday and as a process it should be respected and acknowleged that it happens differently for different people.
Adulthood is often a cultural and social construct too, some cultures encourage their young to be far more independent than others, should we enforce conformity and if we should who's?
Should we hold someone back from doing "adult" things because they're not 18 even when they're ready?
TheCatWoman said:theres no one to tell you not to run with scissors or not to shout in corridors!
I didn't pay much attention to those who tried to stop me back then and could lead them in a merry dance to argue that it was approprate in the circumstances even when I knew it wasn't.
I must have been a proper pain in the bum back then. Probably still am now I think on it...
I still feel like im not fully grown up although I do a lot of adult things. I also still do a lot of childish things and I always feel like a child in company of others. Especially NTs. But I remember when I was a kid I often heard that I’m more mature as for my age. Things changed in my adolescence. Then first time I heard that I’m immature. So I’m not sure how adult I actually am.
Being a grown up can be fun, theres no one to tell you not to run with scissors or not to shout in corridors!
There was always a part of me that felt grown up, that part has grown up with the rest of me, still asking questions, mostly 'why?' and still having fun.
So then is the ideal age to decide whethr to take a drug or have your goolies surgically or chemically changed.
If that's the case, then in order to create happy adn well adjusted adults we need to start teaching "Delayed Gratification" to all human tiny children as soon as they enter the educational system.
This will make profound changes in all human endeavour, and sound the death knell of neo-classical and keynsian economic theory & practice amnogst other things.
And we'll all live longer in aggregate as a result!
In a nutshell, ANY framework of life whether religious or secular, whether overall or good or bad, can be regarded (and will be) by SOMEONE as "Oppression".
I've been trying to solve that one for 23 years now. When I do, I'll take action to implement the solution, using force if neccesessary... AND THERE'S THE PROBLEM.
Human nature.
A simple but firm belief in God, and the consequent reality that I am a part of that plan, results for me in supplication that I might play as good a part in that plan as I can do. God in return reveals to me as much as I need to play that part. God does not not make it easy and Jesus shows me clearly why and how it is my fault.
I can on many days clearly see how each difficulty under which I labour is either of my own making, or the consequence of a test I failed to overcome. Just becuse anotehr human being was the instrument used to test me at that point, theere's no point in hating them but I do reserve the right to describe them in the most non-P.C. terms I can can think of until the rage wears off.
Parts of me felt like 'adult' when I was 7, due to the level of independence I was expected to have. Other parts of me still don't feel adult.
I Sperg said:Don't do it!! It's no fun..
Seconded. I take considerable pains to keep some of my youthful enjoyment of life which annoys lots of my neurotypical peers who seem to be drudging through life without this. More fool them I say!
I should have said this much earlier. NEVER!! Don't do it!! It's no fun...
OK. So you clearly tried to post this, originally, 2 days ago.
I very strongly suspect that it was "caught and held, automatically" by the automated "spam-bot killer / needs-checking-by-a-human software" because it includes 3 links to other web sites.
What I mean by this is.....there are 3 separate areas of text in your post that, if you 'click' on those parts, you are taken to those websites from which you had copied the text.
This technique is used by commercial spam bots....so this is why you post was delayed. Our volunteer moderators don't normally work at the weekends....hence the 2 day delay in your post appearing.
I hope this explanation helps reassure you that WHAT you wrote was fine.
Have a good Monday firemonkey.
Yours
Number.
No one. It was pointed out that it's a forum glitch ,and has happened to quite a lot of other posters.
Who or what accused you of spamming? Thats horrible, I think being falsly accused of wrong doing is a trigger for all of us, but some more so than others.
Yes!
Limited budget, probably.
Tried again . Accused of spamming again. From what I can make out, it's a longstanding problem. Which raises the question as to why the NAS hasn't bothered to sort the problem out.
Trying again
An industrial therapy unit was a facility within psychiatric hospitals in post-war Britain where patients engaged in industrial sub-contract work as part of their rehabilitation. These units were designed to resemble factory environments and aimed to prepare long-stay patients for discharge by equipping them with skills necessary for independent living12.
Patients performed tasks such as assembling cardboard boxes or making novelty paper items, often receiving a nominal wage for their work2. The concept was inspired by rehabilitation programs for disabled soldiers during World War II and aimed to harmonize economic productivity with mental well-being1.
I concur with Number. Anyone can get a post removed for spamming. It happened to me - I contested it and it was put back without explanation. Since then I found out that it's automatic and nothing to do with you. Over-sensitive computers. There are some triggers that people have pointed out - but I can't remember what they are.
Firemonkey, rest assured that the mechanics of this forum are truly rubbish. Please do not assume that you have been targeted for anything in particular that you have written or done within one of your posts to result in it being "pulled" by the system.
About a year ago, I experimented with how/why posts get pulled by the system. It is pretty laughable, and often has no relationship to what you have "said" in your post. When I started to "unpick" and "report to all" about what I had discovered, I was asked NOT to report to the masses....which is not unreasonable.....because "publishing" such information would/could then allow the "nasty folk" to exploit the systems.
Please, just rest assured, that the system is simply rubbish - but probably well intentioned.
I tried replying to you but got accused of spamming. Apparently mentioning that I was mostly working in an industrial therapy unit during my last psych stay , and giving a Copilot description of such, is unacceptable. I now can find no way of challenging the decision. Being falsely accused of doing wrong is a major trigger for me due to an experience whilst at prep school.
I wasn't in psych hospital because of that. That was just one of the things they had me do while in there. Most of the time they had me working in the industrial therapy unit.Via Copilot
What a horrible experience for you and how stupid to put someone in an instistution for. My Mum would probably have been along side you, she can peel potatoes, but only with one sort of peeler, she cannot get her head around using a different type, it's like her eyes take in the information, but it doesn't get through to her brain and to her hands. I'm like that with tech.