Can't See The Forest For The Trees (Bottom-Up Thinking)

So I've been diving back into researching (one of my special interests) and have gone back to the topic of autism. No real surprise that might be a topic of interest. 

This time I'm exploring specifics, rather than generalised adult related information. 

I've been looking for explanations and information regarding why my head is so noisy, and why I think the way that I do. My recent information gathering informed the title of this thread.

I was wondering who else has thrown themselves into research to help explain their experiences. Has it helped? And have you found gems of information that made greater sense of things for you?

Grinning

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  • Seeing detail, in my personal research falls into the Sense-Perception / Different Salience Network category. The ability to not naturally dull out and intake detail means there is a significant amount more noise to sift through consciously and that will make it much more difficult to work out a whole. 

    Everything works in context, though, and when young, that wealth of info plus the difficulty with identifying a thing (I still don't know how to look something up on google to get the result I want at times) can compound frustration, creating stress, making it even more overwhelming. 

    I feel like every child diagnosed as Autistic should get a free complete set of Brittanica Encyclopaedias. This could potentially fix a lot of problems.

  • My feeling is there's a contadiction. Our brains work on a monotropic basis but at the same time can have difficulty filtering out unwanted information in order to meet this need. 

  • Interesting! I'm not sure I see the contradiction?

    Monotropism involves being able to see detail. It's a type of full-brain reasoning, gamma waves in action. The salience network is different process and because we're not filtering out like non-autistic peers, we are simply in need of education or tools to get these different functions to work with a little more fluidity. 

  • You write so excellently.  Thank you so much.  You have explained my lived experience in your writing above.  Moreover, I can also wholly understand and agree with the other posters who politely scream "contradiction" at the principles you explain.  I know you are correct with your words above, and also know "the other posters" are right with their queries.

    I am a massive tangle of contradiction and confusion.

    Those who look at me from the outside AND me looking at myself from the inside - have no choice other than to conclude that my being is INEXPLICABLE NONSENSE.

    Juniper - you have elucidated that inexplicable nonsense - with aplomb.

    With sincere thanks.

    Number.

  • Monotropism is a great theory of explaining how the Autistic brain works https://monotropism.org/in-practice/ It's not exactly a one-thing-at-a-time, but requires external and affirmed space-time for focused-free-play and reinforced reminders to finish one-thing-at-a-time. It is also the theory behind Everything-all-at-once or as a few philosophers would say, Mise-en-scène.

    The key to this appears to be with our Gamma waves not only making full-brain connexions at high speed, but these same waves are responsible for flow-state. It is a theory that helps explain why we can find what connects seemingly disparate elements and can be helpful to explain why it's important to do one thing at a time. Essentially, if everything in the mind were stuffed into ones room, it would be a great deal of chaos requiring sorting through one element at a time.

    The explanation can help parents and educators who don't have this same experience to be mindful about the internal happenings and how to help kids better function, for instance. 

    So essentially it seems the ability for our Salience Network to catch all the detail without dulling the senses like our NT peers works in connexion to the Flow-State potential of the Monotropic function. I don't feel these are contradictory. They contain a great potential for calculations and reasoning which society requires. Like any natural inclination or talent, these co-functioning mechanisms will need mentoring and room to grow into. All talents need practical steps and application to perfect ability. 

  • But yes I do think our brains approach the world from a detail first perspective.

    Because we are monotropic.

  • I thought monotropism was "one thing at a time".

    Yes exactly, single attention tunnels.

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