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Forum changing

Does anyone else feel the tone of the forum is changing a bit lately? People seem to be argueing with each other a bit more and there seem to be more endless debates about issues

Tbh I find the outside NT world very like that and I come here to escape it all. 

Im not saying we shouldn't debate issues but if I wanted to have people debating current affairs issues and then have other people saying that it is offensive to debate those issues and people getting threats to be cancelled for their opinions etc I would go on Twitter where that cycle seems to repeat endlessly. As it is I avoid Twitter like the plague and I come here to escape all that crap. Tbh the last week or so has made me think of taking a break from here for my mental health which makes me really sad as this is usually the place that keeps me sane.

Also does it seem like posts get deleted or reported more easily now? Not sure if thats the case but its how it feels. For instance about a year ago a thread was started about sex and how some autistic people struggle to enjoy sex due to the social interactions, sensory overload etc. It was a very open and honest converstation, surprisingly so, and ran to about 100 comments. Talking about this with other autistic people changed my life and made me have a real breakthrough with how I coped with that stuff, it was so helpful to me. Not sure a converstation like that would be allowed today 

Anyway enough of my ramblings. All Im saying is I want this forum to return to the open, comforting space it used to be.

Let's not make this place like the NT world! 

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  • I'll admit I had a very visceral reaction at first to the prisoners thread, and as I was upset and exhausted I may not have articulated my concerns very clearly.  I've just added a post there to explain more coherently why I think discussing it is a problem. 

    When certain issues that are close to our values and painful experiences are put right there out of the blue then we may well react and blow up like a puffer fish.  

    We're autistic.  Sometimes we will say offensive things without realising it.  The trick is to listen to each other when we say why something has hurt us and learn from each other.

    So if person A said, "Black lives matter" and person B responded "All lives matter," then person A has a right to be upset and tell person B why. And instead of complaining about being attacked or cancelled, the person B needs to listen and learn and maybe even apologise.

    Unfortunately in the reporting system on this site there's no way to say why you're bringing a particular post to a mods attention.  The only option is to flag it for abuse.  

  • So if person A said, "Black lives matter" and person B responded "All lives matter," then person A has a right to be upset and tell person B why. And instead of complaining about being attacked or cancelled, the person B needs to listen and learn and maybe even apologise.

    I think that is a really poor example tbh. Its just another way to bring politics into the forum. The idea that everyone has to be "educated" into having the same opinions and then made to apologise for thinking for themselves is part of what I am trying to escape in the NT world

    I dont know why we have to discuss issues like BLM etc on this forum, its not Twitter. Cant we just leave politics out of it and all get along and support each other even if we all have different views? 

  • Actually I chose that example because someone said a similar thing in a recent post about another minority group.  Someone brought up a controversial political issue, I pointed out that it was going to cause upset and arguments but was ignored and then all kinds of arguments ensued.  And the "all rights matter" card was played.

    The problem is that we are Intersectional- there are people here from all kinds of minorities and when one person says something that I discriminatory then another person has a right to politely correct them.  That's not politics, thats just asking people to be kind and respectful.  People are entitled to have their own opinions, of course, but that should not mean that the spreading of harmful prejudiced stereotypes should go unchecked.  When a person's "opinions" exclude and cause harm to a minority then perhaps education is a valid option.

  • Billy your post reminded me of this tune:

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