Being good at most social skills, with ASD

I know that most people with ASD have hard time being good at deception and charm, but people like me are different. I became good at being charm and deceptive. When I deceive people, they don't know that I am lying, even when I laugh after, because I use charm.

I am developed some NT social skills, such as lying, charm, manipulating, tricking and brainwashing. I know this is strange, because I have ASD, but I don't fit the stereotype and exact diagnostic criteria of ASD that most people and professionals think of.

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  • I got scared that I might have Antisocial Personality Disorder, because I still have some symptom of Conduct Disorder Unspecified, and with some of those traits, I developed some skills that I thought are NT social skills, but is actually bad characteristics. I am am 21 years old and still kept some traits of Conduct Disorder Unspecified.

    I sometimes wonder if I have Antisocial Personality Disorder, but have empathy and remorse, and don't go around commiting some crimes that I did throughout my childhood, and the only difference is that I never got criminal records.

    My symptoms throughout my childhood:

    * Annoyed and chased animals for sick pleasure, but I started to feel so guilty for doing that, as I stopped doing that
    * Sometimes broke some school rules, and get into fights
    * A little bit impulsive when angry
    * Always thought that I am right, and getting into arguments, most of my peers thought I was wired, because of that

    I know that my symptoms of Conduct Disorder Unspecified did not present all the time, but it was pathological and that went on throughout my childhood.

    Some symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder that I have:

    * Charm (I use charm when I lie)
    * Brainwashing (I don't do that, but I have that skill)
    * Lying (I sometimes lie a lot, and people don't know that I lied, but I am more likely to be honest than most)
    * Manipulation (I do that rarely though)

    Those skills that I have is limited, because I have history of severe communication delay.

    I feel guilty that I have those traits, but I wonder if it is possible for me to be a psychopath with empathy and remorse, and choosing to not commit crimes, but I still feel like I harm others by having those traits. I feel ashamed, I am sorry!

  • I don't think that you should be scared or ashamed for being who you are. I mean, if you put that kind of energy into a certain skill or practice, you can use it for something good. 

    I think that there might be forums and groups dedicated to those in the cluster b personalities, and you can read and share your experiences with each other, just to see if you can relate to any of it. But it's probably a good idea to get a diagnosis though, just so that you're not wondering about it all the time, but that's up to you. 

  • I don't have the right to say that I have Antisocial Personality Disorder, because I am not diagnosed with it. I just say that I might, but that question will be with my psychiatrist 

  • Well, yeah, but just because other people have committed crimes, it doesn't mean you're going to do it, and so just explain that to others. 

    And I mean, even if you do have APD, it's up to you whether or not you'd like to share that diagnosis with anyone.

  • The problem is that symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder includes elements of criminal behavior, but there is a stigma, because not everyone with Antisocial Personality Disorder commit crimes. The diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder looks very bad.

  • Oh, what I meant was regardless of the diagnosis, you are who you are. Even if you are diagnosed with APD, it does not automatically mean that you're someone bad, so you shouldn't be scared or ashamed of yourself.  

    There's a comedian that's called Bill Burr that I enjoy watching, because he's an angry type of guy, but he can make his experiences funny. 

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