Being good at most social skills, with ASD

Not a problem! Always stay open to the growth and you'll go far!

In my experience, these NT behaviours of manipulating others are not admirable, but stem from insecurity and repression. It's OK to allow others room to grow, but intentional deceit and a lack of humility will only summon unfortunate consequences.

Find individuals to admire who have purposeful lives and inspire others to reason and towards an integrated being - those who's actions / intents / words match (as best possible). There are much better ways of being human which create a better aesthetic and 'fluidity' for everyone. 

That makes more sense. You are correct, I have milder problems with interpreting the context of some social cues. I am sorry that I argued with you, I was a bit confused, because I also have a lot of NT social skills in other context, even though I have ASD. 

I am sorry, I don't mean to come off as a teenager, I am 21 years old, but I was just a teenager not that long ago.

While it's good to have a discussion, it can be more useful to recognise when someone is trying to help, not dominate. How you worded this original post was based on the assumption that you have identified unethical Neurotypical social mechanisms, which is partly true, and also that you have mastered them to some degree, which might not be the case. 

Attempting to deliberately confuse an "opponent" and then assuming their response affirms your success at doing so, is immature - And This Is OK. But I am trying to help you recognise that being Autistic 99% of the time will include mis-reading Neurotypicals, misinterpreting their response, misunderstanding and miscommunication. 

The structure, syntax and grammar of the post comes across as if you are very young. And this is also OK. I am not condemning you in any manner. When I was your age, as most of here were, I would've given anything for someone twice and then some my age to recognise how much education I was desperately in need of. And you, young Jedi, are no Master of Manipulations. Most likely, if you are Autistic, you will never be - and this is OK.

What I have suggested is you undergo further education in what you are interested in so that eventually, you might have better wit and linguistic command to convey the things you truly mean to convey. Neurotypicals are good at disguise because it is hard-wired into how they communicate. Autistic individuals do not have the same "Defence Mechanisms" and have difficulty not being authentic / raw / vulnerable. If you truly want to try out Proper Social techniques and get real feedback, take a theatre improv class. 

In the meantime, explore more about who you WANT to be, and work toward that. None of us are stuck where we are. 

Thank you!

Well, yeah, but just because other people have committed crimes, it doesn't mean you're going to do it, and so just explain that to others. 

And I mean, even if you do have APD, it's up to you whether or not you'd like to share that diagnosis with anyone.

You do realize that ICD-11 also considers Autism Spectrum Disorder as neurodevelopental disorder?

DSM-5 is not the only one, ICD-11 says something similar about Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Based on what? The link from 2014 you added? No.

That autism is considered a "Dis-Order" is what is outdated. There may be additional learning disabilities. But the Autistic "Neuro-wiring" is not a disorder or disorganisation. 

Autism is a Different Ordering of thinking, reasoning, perceiving and socialising. I'm sorry again, but the DSM is out of touch and out of date with current international research, which is not backed by Private Funding like the US. The rest of the world does not need the Americans telling us what is and what isn't and order or dis-order based on the ideal that Neurotypical American thinking, which is homogenised around a Consumer-based Mindset is the "Standard Model" of "Brain Type". 

In many societies throughout history what is socially acceptable has been morally wrong.

Currently in the US, there is an expectation to focus education on emotional intelligence and social intelligence based on Neurotypcial Reasoning. This actually Dis-Ables Autistic individuals who might use picture-thinking rather than language-based Lobes to reason. Neither is better. Just different. 

The problem is that symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder includes elements of criminal behavior, but there is a stigma, because not everyone with Antisocial Personality Disorder commit crimes. The diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder looks very bad.

Oh, what I meant was regardless of the diagnosis, you are who you are. Even if you are diagnosed with APD, it does not automatically mean that you're someone bad, so you shouldn't be scared or ashamed of yourself.  

There's a comedian that's called Bill Burr that I enjoy watching, because he's an angry type of guy, but he can make his experiences funny. 

Some of what you said seems outdated. Autism Spectrum Disorder is a neurodevelopental disorder.

The only way for an Autist to actually have this antisocial “disordering” is from a profound lack on inexperience, lack of parenting and lack of proper education. Thus rendering it a matter of immaturity. 

A properly thriving Autistic, not in survival mode, matures much slower than their NeuroTypical peers. You are technically still responding as someone socially younger. Being autistic myself, I can hear and recognise the signs of someone who is in need of mentorship and growth. I can feel sympathy for where you’re at. 

If you feel a sense of “boldness” or a sense of winning,  AND you are autistic, it would most likely be from being continually stripped of Agency. 

Any research which promotes the DSM and does not make useful claims to refute it, is already behind the international science. 

Autism diagnostic criteria | Asperger's & Autism Community - Wrong Planet

I think that article criticizes how too narrow diagnostic criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder is, and that it should expend to Broad Autism Phenotype, and people with enough criteria B for Autism Spectrum Disorder, and it basically means that people should be able to meet the diagnostic criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder without criteria A, as long you meet enough diagnostic criteria B for Autism Spectrum Disorder.

But I explained to OP in that article that criteria A should only be reserved when symptoms of Autism Spectrum Disorder is more severe.

The diagnostic criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder is more broad, but not broad enough to handle mild PDD-NOS cases.

So, it is possible to have ASD and have NT traits, It should not be impossible to have full-blown Antisocial Personality Disorder with ASD.

There are studies that it is possible to have Antisocial Personality Disorder and ASD.

There is really not such thing as psychopathy and sociopathy, it's just Antisocial Personality Disorder.

If you think it it is not possible to have Antisocial Personality Disorder and ASD, then I think that statistics is a bit outdated, there are more criminals with ASD than what statistics suggests. It is true that most people with ASD are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.

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I don't have the right to say that I have Antisocial Personality Disorder, because I am not diagnosed with it. I just say that I might, but that question will be with my psychiatrist 

You’re welcome to attach the re search to back this up! 

But I would suggest your social skills in writing, have a good way to go. I’d suggest reading columnists from The Times for reference. 

Francesca Happe at Kings College London has presented a good amount of work as to why it is not possible for the Autistic Brain to become sociopathic let alone Psychopathic, which is next level sociopath. 

For a deeper dive into the history, pick up Anti-Oedipus, Deleuze and Guattari. 

Unless these identifications feel special to you, it is much more useful to back up proclamations with scientific research. Many individuals don’t mind feeing “right” or righteous even if it means they are committing suicide. Would you prefer this? Or would you like to invest in the hard work of research and analysis?

I don't think that you should be scared or ashamed for being who you are. I mean, if you put that kind of energy into a certain skill or practice, you can use it for something good. 

I think that there might be forums and groups dedicated to those in the cluster b personalities, and you can read and share your experiences with each other, just to see if you can relate to any of it. But it's probably a good idea to get a diagnosis though, just so that you're not wondering about it all the time, but that's up to you. 

It is possible to have Autism Spectrum Disorder and psychopathy, you don't need to have all the symptoms to have psychopathy.

Modern psychiatry, it is possible to have Antisocial Personality Disorder and ASD, you don't need all the symptoms to have Antisocial Personality Disorder.

What happened is that my social skills got improved overtime with the help of therapy, and developed some NT social skills by myself, but I have milder problems with interpreting the context of some social cues.

I hate to break it to you, but these are not traits. They're not inherent parts of the personality. A good read on Personality Traits might be to start with Jung's Archetypes. 

Another caveat here is that what makes someone successfully charming is their ability to intuit an Other (Empathy) and appear 'self-less'. The wit and precision with this skill goes hand in hand with exquisite attention to detail and a fluidity of grammar. Language and Semiotics are the Most Important for one to Master the craft of Manipulations and other contortions. 

Autistic individuals will lie if they feel in danger. If they have been overlooked and treated poorly, they may assume this treatment is how we operate in the world and attempt to mirror it. If we have not been exposed to a life style we genuinely admire, or under-exposed to art even, we might not thrive. 

By the definition of Autism, one cannot be both Autistic and also a NeuroTypical (Neurotic) Psychopath. The Psychopath is inherently Neurotic, with the brain-wiring easily programmed for Tribal Inclusion with Language and Semiotics - Asymmetrical thinking which is focused on Hierarchal constructs of competition. An Autistic can become Schizophrenic, though, but when in conditions where they thrive, are not rewarded by domination over another as much as they are rewarded by Eureka moments, or breakthrough analysis. 

These symptoms are not actual symptoms. They are experiments of learning to be human in a society that can be cruel, disregarding and marginalising. 

Always thinking I am right is necessary when others give little room for growth and being wrong has a genuine cost associated with it. In an ideal situation, you would be afforded room for trial and failure and appreciated for just giving a thing a go. 

I suspect you might be interested in psychoanalysis, psychology and sociology. Head to the library! 

I have symptoms of Bipolar Disorder. I feel so alive, and grandiose.

I got scared that I might have Antisocial Personality Disorder, because I still have some symptom of Conduct Disorder Unspecified, and with some of those traits, I developed some skills that I thought are NT social skills, but is actually bad characteristics. I am am 21 years old and still kept some traits of Conduct Disorder Unspecified.

I sometimes wonder if I have Antisocial Personality Disorder, but have empathy and remorse, and don't go around commiting some crimes that I did throughout my childhood, and the only difference is that I never got criminal records.

My symptoms throughout my childhood:

* Annoyed and chased animals for sick pleasure, but I started to feel so guilty for doing that, as I stopped doing that
* Sometimes broke some school rules, and get into fights
* A little bit impulsive when angry
* Always thought that I am right, and getting into arguments, most of my peers thought I was wired, because of that

I know that my symptoms of Conduct Disorder Unspecified did not present all the time, but it was pathological and that went on throughout my childhood.

Some symptoms of Antisocial Personality Disorder that I have:

* Charm (I use charm when I lie)
* Brainwashing (I don't do that, but I have that skill)
* Lying (I sometimes lie a lot, and people don't know that I lied, but I am more likely to be honest than most)
* Manipulation (I do that rarely though)

Those skills that I have is limited, because I have history of severe communication delay.

I feel guilty that I have those traits, but I wonder if it is possible for me to be a psychopath with empathy and remorse, and choosing to not commit crimes, but I still feel like I harm others by having those traits. I feel ashamed, I am sorry!