Going to prostitutes as alternative to dating

Off topic, I know, but we do get a fair few us citizens here, anyoen knwo what that is? Are we the worlds best autism forum by any chance?!

You appear to have a lot of self-hatred. Why are you posting here? In order to shock, brag, receive validation, produce revulsion, or to charge-up your self-hatred?

i dunno man, if you say that then it might not be real and may only be part of you negative thoughts of yourself. really those that are truly immoral generally would think of themselves as angels instead and not realise they are immoral.

I would point out rule 4 of this forum

'Be nice to one another and enjoy chatting with others. We encourage conversation and respectful debate; please be aware that individuals may give opinions which are not shared by other members. Insulting posts or comments making personal jibes will not be tolerated. (updated February 2020)'

Bullying is not nice in any context.

Thomas said:

And yes I called you aspergers freak, cuz I can be quite mean and bully others on the spectrum weaker than me. And yes I use the sex stuff to bully those who are still virgins, thinking I am cool for being a male ***. 

That's is an absolutely horrible thing to say! The fact you bully people is well in my eyes disgusting. You use the "sex stuff" against people who are still virgin's.... Not being funny I think I'd rather be a virgin and know how to respect women! Seriously please think before you say stuff like that, this IS NOT a hostile place and that is not the type of attitude people want to hear especially from one of their own! 

That's a bit uncalled for! At the end of the day this is a forum and people are allowed an opinion. I mean I'm a male and ever I think you are talking of these women as things/objects rather than actual people. Yes I get you maybe struggling but so are we all, it is NO NEED to take it out on others! 

Please, I'm asking you to stop talking like a pedophile. 

This is not a US website. There are human beings on this site and the way you are relaying *some information is De-Humanising toward women and actual young girls. 

"guys asking girls out" is a phrase that suggests all ages.

"I had sex with this girl" is a phrase that implies she was underage due to its context and your relaying your age. 

While it is OK to engage in this topic, it is also OK to be mindful about Being Respectful - given the material here - of how you speak about women you are consuming and disposing of (who you might also allow to take advantage of you). I have learned over the years to write things down on a document before copying into a public message. A little effort goes a long way! You want some real advice on how to treat women right? 

Aspergers women do have the same difficulty. Not only does society require much more from us (NTs are horrified when we have these traits), we also have much more to lose and can find ourselves easily compromised. We have to work 10 x harder at not becoming prey to predatory or sociopathic men. 

Now, if you want to have a real relationship (I just want female companionship/intimacy and would prefer a girl to ask me out.) you'll have to put in the effort. First though: 

Thomas said:

Jelina - escort who used me for rides 

Listing females like consumer goods is not good for the soul. It's a bit gross and sad, if I'm honest. Even doing just this perpetuates a warped view of what a woman's role would be in a partnership with you. What do you have to offer? I wouldn't want to be with someone who just wanted to take and consume. But also, you are 100% responsible for your own decisions. If you want to be someone worth a Real Woman investing in, try just re-writing all those names and taking responsibility for every action / decision you made. Let me help:

Laurie - "After I slept with her roommate Liz, who I contracted an STD from, she stopped her service. But I had unprotected sex with her (no condom). 

Jelina - "escort who I gave free rides to"

Blonde Jen - "escort I saw a few times, but couldn't afford"  

When individuals take responsibility for the Role or Part they play in an action or exchange or relationship, it impacts everything which follows: perception and respect. If you take responsibility for paying these women to rob you, or paying these women to ghost you, would you still list them? Would it change how you perceive these events? 

You may have experienced being dominated or being diminished or not being afforded dignity for a majority of your life.  But you don't have to perpetuate this or allow this and you don't have to participate in how society treats you and teaches you to treat others. While there are professionals in this field, please do mind this is an open forum and there are other women on this site who deal with men viewing them as just something to be consumed - They end up as actual victims - financially restrained and completely powerless, and cannot break past that perspective to even be allowed to be in control of their lives. 

It is acceptable in the states. Everyone calls females girls regardless of age. Never heard of Girls night Out, women in their 60s use that term when going out to dinner and having fun letting lose. 
And no I would never even think about underage females sexually. Age of consent varies state to state, its 17 in New York (where I live), but my rule of thumb is never have sexual relations with any girl under 18.

And in case anyone wonders, yes 18 is the youngest girl I have slept with. Read my thread and you will read about a traveling escort named Abby who suckered me into lending her $300 or an airfare. When I first met her back in 2019, she was 18 and the youngest girl I ever slept with. I saw her twice, then she disappeared cuz of covid. She finally came back this summer (she is now 20) and then told me she was retiring from escorting to join the military but wanted to spend 3 days with me before she enlisted, she just needed $300 for her airfare, which I foolishly sent to her and she took the money and ran. See above post.

Again - Using the term “girl” will unfortunately cause others to think there is an open discussion with a pedophile. 

While this term may be acceptable in the States, it is not in other countries. 

I do not book any women and this is not an escort service. Most of these girls work independently and live in poor run down motels or ghetto high crime areas and are junkies, they use this money to get their next fixing or to pay their motel room rent (motel rooms are expensive, $75 a day the cheapest). This is why I have encountered such bad experiences as being robbed as anyone knows how addictive illicit drugs are and the measures addicts go to get them (street drugs are quite expensive from what I have heard, like $300 a day - that is why these girls are constantly needing money each day). Also why many of these girls engage in risky behavior such as no condom, unprotected vaginal sex. 

That is because I drive 30,000 miles a year. I live in Upstate New York and in my spare time like to travel. I drove all to way to Chicago and back over the summer to go on a short vacation. So you see why I have such high mileage. 

i go see dominatrixes..... dominatrices.... whatever. totally legal... i've never had a problem.  no looking over my shoulder for cops, std's, crazy hookers, pimps with guns or knives, etc. yeah, i given up on dating. i really find it hard to empathize with other people ------------- uh, especially when we're talking intimate exchange of intimate...........etc... i've given up. it's taken this long to see what a jerk i've been much of my life.

i think you're playing with fire. if you were an NT, and you were on an equal playing field as these pimps, whores, cops, street hook ups --- that might be one thing.... jail, fights, mugged, etc. but you're not on an equal playing field, by your own account. you're in their yard, their rules, their street smarts, their ability to read people. 

all them crazies got the odds stacked in their favor. but you no that.

Please be careful, it sounds like you are putting yourself in physical danger doing this. If you are happy with paying someone for a purely physical relationship, then please be sensible and pragmatic about how you pursue it. For example, you could make sure you book the same one or two trusted women each time (and abstain if they are not available), budget sensibly for how many times you can afford to get this service each month without getting into further debt and make sure you stick to it, and get yourself regularly tested and treated for any diseases you may contract.   

Its unfortunate that you feel that this is your only option for human connection, and I would question whether that is true. There is more to an intimate relationship than just the physical, and if you do want to pursue that then, as others have mentioned here, there are lots of books, youtube channels, courses, therapists, etc out there that can help you achieve that. 

I'm going to help you stay above the line here and ASSUME you mean to use the pragmatic term "woman" when you state "girl" as there are less consequences for consensual sex with an adult female over 18 than for predatory behaviour with children. 

You're not a victim either. Some men will pick up Jordan Petersons 12 Rules For Life to help them work out details that are difficult. Or Erich Fromm's The Art of Loving. If you need something more spiritual, there's Cloud and Townsend books or The Journey of Desire by John Eldridge, or The 4 Loves C.S. Lewis. In fact, there are so many "Life Manuals" available. Women are attracted to manners. To men who can laugh about their control issues and who take responsibly for their complexities. The ones who interrogate their own selfishness are the ones who end up with supportive partners. The ones who just need to dominate end up divorced. 

aha your old car is younger than my bike. i have a 1997 yamaha virago with only like 10k miles on it lol

I just pay the minimum payment each month on my credit card ($200 a month) and my maxmimum credit card limit is $15,000, which I have never had to worry about exceeding.

Plus I find other ways to cut back and live frugally, like drive an old car (which runs well). I have a 2012 honda civic with 202,000 miles on it and plan to run until it dies, perhaps even replace the engine someday if it goes, cheaper than buying new car (honads last forever). So I have otherways. 

But I work an office job for the State Government, take home $2100 a month (gross pay is about $3000 a month but that is before taxes, health care, union dues etc). Plus I do side work odd jobs for my uncle for $20 an hour, so easy $80 to $100 a day often on a weekend, which I in turn use to pay for the escorts often. 

dude, your "not broke" but you have no money and owe 9k on a credit card? 
you are broke... because your at a negative in networth by the sounds of that. unless you can somehow get away with not paying credit cards and they somehow dont count as debt? i dunno never had one myself.

I think that you have recognised the downside to resorting to prostitutes, they are often psychologically damaged themselves, likely to be drug addicts, unlikely to be entirely honest and possibly have STDs. Not that I am blaming them, many, if not most, are victims of society and the predatory exploitation of others.

As for not being successful in attracting romantic partners, I can sympathise. I had the same problem. However, I worked out those things that were handicapping me. Some, like a blindness to recognising flirting and poor ability to reciprocate, I could do very little about. But my emotional unavailability and heightened fear of rejection, I could modify, and I did. I became more emotionally available, I made myself vulnerable to rejection by being honest about my feelings, and it worked.