I would say one of my biggest faults is jealousy.
I don't know why, but it is. I don't like it. But looking back over my life it has caused me most problems.
I don't know if jealousy is linked to autism or not.
Does any else find this a problem?
I would say one of my biggest faults is jealousy.
I don't know why, but it is. I don't like it. But looking back over my life it has caused me most problems.
I don't know if jealousy is linked to autism or not.
Does any else find this a problem?
I think your definitely on right lines there.
I know you are!
Still can't stop my own jealousy tho.
Wish I could conquer it
Jealousy breeds suspicion, doubt, and mistrust, which can snowball into pretty intense emotions and behaviors, he says. We may become preoccupied with the fear of betrayal. We might start checking up on our friend or partner constantly, trying to “catch them.” We might become possessive of that person.
Caelus, as within so without. The way you view and treat others is the way you view and treat yourself. You're carrying around a lot of unpleasant thoughts about people and your creating a bad life for yourself. What you give out, you get back.
Jealousy is an emotion born from a sense of lack. We feel it when we think that we are at risk of losing someone or something that we feel belongs to us, and us alone. Or, it arises when we feel someone has something that we feel should have too.
It's common, but it's not normal. In fact, it is abnormal. It's a distorted emotion.
Jealousy destroys love. It is an acid that corrodes us from the inside, quickly contaminating our outside world, poisoning not only ourselves, but the very object of our jealousy—the friend, or lover is pushed away, repelled by our behaviour, or violence or unpleasantness; and the thing desired becomes an object of pain for us and no longer brings us any pleasure.
Love is like holding a tiny, beautiful, fragile bird in our hand. We let it fly away, for we know it can never belong to us. But we keep our hand outstretched, and it may or may not return to us. Jealousy is the opposite of love. Jealousy makes us clench our fist, gripping tightly, so that we crush the life from the bird.
Recognise jealousy for what it is: a poison that we create and administer to ourselves and others when we believe that we can possess something or someone.
nah, i dont take notice of other peoples lives enough to even qualify for the feeling of jealousy.
to me other people dont really exist, other people are just NPCs, perhaps they dont exist after all? ... perhaps reality is just a dream, and thus in my dream i am the only one that exists and everyone else is just aspects of my own personality that my mind has created? lol.... which could end up being a worse case scenerio given how i view alot of people as trash tbh.... especially since getting on public transport recently and going through **** areas to get to work and being stuck behind hordes of unemployed **** in b&m when i try to pick a few things up before i head in to work... yeah, no way i can feel jealousy... perhaps more looking down on others is my fault instead, which means i cant be jealous of people i look down on and i dont know many who i even look up to.... although those that id look up to id recognise their place is hard earned and i wouldnt want their responsibility and work and stress... which stops me from being jealous of those id actually look up to as id realise their life is too much hard work for me. naturally people get placed in the positions in which they belong by their own action i guess, and when you in your place you neither look up nor down with jealousy but rather down with contempt at the mess and up with fear of getting there because you dont wanna be lumbered with all that stress they have up there.
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It's the intensity that is frustrating. It would be natural that any emotion is heightened an overwhelming amount for anyone autistic.
I'd been accused of this years ago and it strikes me as rather odd that someone who was cheating would then accuse me of being jealous. Why was he even in a relationship? It felt unjust so I became intensely focused on attempting to work out what systems were at play, like his gaslighting. This project / obsession turned into a few years as I began to unravel I really didn't understand emotions in the least. I learned that I misidentified or misrepresented emotions because others were assuming my motives were neurotypical. Basically, I hit a point in my 30s where I'd really had enough - long before I knew what Autism even was.
I found articles like this examining the difference between jealousy and envy: https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/toxic-relationships/202107/dealing-triangulation-envy-and-jealousy
I discovered that if I actually started feeling jealous it was because I felt compromised in some way and eventually learned the only way to deal with this with a NT is to remove myself from the situation. But with said above mate, I recall feeling embarrassed or humiliated when he'd flirt with individuals right in front of me, or even behind my back. I wasn't jealous. Enough research helped me identity what I was feeling and that women use men to compete. They dominate each other by collecting intimate moments with another's 'better or not-so-better' other half. Men do it too but not as much. There's really no such thing as harmless flirting. But then there are individuals who don't get too invested, who don't suffer intense emotions and who aren't as open or vulnerable enough to be bothered. The flip side of not getting too attached is either a cruel unhappiness or an inability to actually be vulnerable but that might be a fantasy sighting on a forum like this!
I spent years looking into the philosophy and psychology of this only to discover cruel games people play, all to gain some imaginary sense of power over. And then unravelling misidentified emotions. Confusing one thing for another is easy when people are quick to judge and satiated by very surface value judgements... which can lead to feeling ashamed of something I didn't do or couldn't even imagine intending.
Jealousy isn't bad when appropriately placed with someone who might hope you do feel it occasionally. If the emotions weren't so intense. And on a good day I'm rather irate with my computer!
Isn’t it natural to be jelious of those who have friends when you don’t. Who have lovers when you don’t. Those who have adventures and experiences and doors of opportunity when you don’t.
things that come so easily to them but elude you. Lots of things come easily to most people that autistic people struggle to atain. Surely a degree of jeliousy is only normal
The thing about autism, I think, is a world that’s kind to us would be found very inconvenient for the rest of humanity. Would it crush their souls the way the world so often crushes ours? No. But it would make their lives harder. So they stamp their feet and complain about how unreasonable and unrealistic we are to expect the world to change for us.
isn’t that the way of it? In order for one person to be happy another must be miserable. Example two men hopelessly in love with the same woman. You know there is no good outcome for them both. But it’s not just romance it can be jobs, promotions. Getting your way on an important issue. It’s tragically unfair not everyone can get their way. So in the name of fairness as a society we are forced to judge who’s way is more right than another’s. Conflict is unavoidable.