anyone else get this when they go out?

so today i went out, had to go to specsavers appointment, plus i was also switching a big wad of old 20s to new 20s.

anyways on way home group of 3 topless prettyboy lads walk past me and as they walk past close one of them jerks at me as if to feign a attack and shouts "BOOO" in my face... like total stranger for no reason.... anyone else get this type of crap when they go out? or is this just me that gets random strangers tryna intimidate me for no reason?

anyway, why the feck should a stranger even bother to interact with a random stranger they pass? especially in this way? what if i hit the guy, does he think of this? ofcourse hes probably confident as he had 2 mates with him and i was just me..... tbh if i wasnt carrying a sizable amount of money id have gladly tried to see if they could all live up to their image. as for image my brain always judges everyone as larger than me, but thinking on it perhaps they maybe larger in body but definately not in muscle tone. 1v1 with one of them would be interesting if i didnt have anything to lose on me, and perhaps if it wasnt so hot. 

i guess its just todays society and crappy upbringing of a entire generation of scum. 

anyway if anyone wants to know the town that has scum like this in, its wigan. if you want to avoid scum then avoid wigan. id guess all sizable towns are like this though? 
is it perhaps that we need to bring back smacking kids? ... smack them while they are kids so that they dont need to be smacked harder by a total stranger when they are a adult when they try intimidate that stranger?

  • Last time I was beaten to the floor, I grabbed my opponents testicles and lifted myself back upright by them, whilst he decided to descend in the direction his knackers were being pulled.

    I then turned my attention to his eyeballs now I was on top...

    True story.

  • thats good to hear

  • As part of new research into top-end mentality, which has seen high-functioning aspergers broaden into neurodivergence as a new class categorisation now autism's distancing itself, High Sensitivity has been recognised as a distinct trait. Such kids just don't realise how triggering such behaviour can be, they think it's funny when it isn't. Elaine Aron's The Highly Sensitive Person is the starting point, Tom Falkenstein's The Highly Sensitive Man recasts her thinking in a more masculine orientation.

    Yes, the current educational culture of entitlement is causing serious issues for them, not least in the real world of employment, when it no longer washes. One recently retriggered the trauma I suffered in adolescence after the Tavistock Clinic told my peers I was clever - the culture was that which is now under investigation in the Public Schools, as one of the "other neighbouring schools" involved in the Dulwich College/JAGS rape culture was involved. Three years of bullying in a setting similar to Lindsay Anderson's If... is no laughing matter, and a similar little sod retriggered it as fully-blown PTSD, which has had me benched for two years - but at least I finally found the tools to release the complex trauma resulting, just a couple of months ago.

  • theres logic behind it though. you either deal with your opponent... before they deal with you.

    one example is how he teaches that as soon as you opponent goes to ground, dont wait for him to get up, dont help him up, dont be a good sport and dont go to ground with him.... just soccer ball kick him in the face and do not give him the chance to get up again, for if they get up then its likely he will get up more furious and you will be on the ground next and he will be ensuring you dont get up instead.

    there is protection in ensuring the opponent cannot harm you before they harm you. and ofcourse most would say not to hit the opponent when they are down and be a good sport, but the good sport then gets beat up.... the teacher that teaches to hit them when they are down is the teacher that cares for your safety and doesnt want you to get hurt or take chances.

  • Exactly, so please don't put yourself in that situation. I know we've had our moments on here but you're a good person with a lot to offer; please don't throw your life away because of idiots. Be the bigger person.

  • There are little rituals and self agreements people seem to have to satisfy before they can hit you.

    If you interrupt those sequences they find it impossible to hit you. It's weird but seems to work very well.

    IF you are being serially abused as I was you have to find new ways of putting them off their game.

    That's all violence is normally, a pathetic and unpleasant game played by angry and disappointed losers in life trying to make a power play in a realm they think they understand... Psychopaths, sportsmen, soldiers etc, use violence more formally and sometimes for different reasons, but I'm pretty sure I've nailed the stuff we are talking about here.

    It's the old "If the only tool you have is a hammer everything you meet takes on the aspect of a nail" thing. 

    GET more tools that allow you to win, is the solution. Psychology, Calm words, love, they are all useful and have carried the day for me.

    If you are a serial victim like I was, you will have picked up some of the wrong mannerisms, which then makes you a target for others who like "picking a fight" When I made the decision to learn all about how to win violent encounters, I realised there was a heirarchy of violence. I joined the army specifically to learn how to look after myself and end the cycle of violence I had been trapped in for over a decade. The best solution is to always walk away unscathed, with extra points awarded if you opponent can do that too.

    That I found requires mind & facial muscle mastery way more than it does weapons training.  

  • or if they have a knife they stick it in your belly while u stand there lol   

  • Another classic move is getting forehead to forehead with their opponent, which is the opposite of what you should do in a fight, you should always keep enough distance so that you can see your opponents hands and feet in your peripheral vision so you can react more quickly to what they do with them

  • Yes, all the time, although in my case I usually will answer back, though honestly it's a stupid thing to do ans you could end up stabbed or something, but I have a temper and I'm not intimidated by hard man acts.

    One occasion that sticks out most was when during a work break a bunch of drunks approached, and I knew from hearing them singing and making noise that they couldn't handle their drink and sure enough they got to me, started circling me and sort of dancing around me making those stupid noises drunk blokes make (like that whuhuuuuh sort of noise, it's weird) and one in particular was right in front of me, with a look that said I wasn't ***. So I lost it, started shouting and asked which one of them wanted to have a go, at which point they stopped dancing and just sort of stood in a line not knowing what to do, until the leader I guess said something like 'you're alright mate' and try to shake my hand but I told them to *** off again, and they did, until they got to the entrance of a pub down the way and started making their noise again knowing I was hardly likely to come into the club after them. 

    Just complete tools, I hate them with a passion and I have several stories of some wannabe thug(s) thinking their swagger and swear words are enough to scare me. From my experience they've got nothing beyond that, which begs the question why go looking for trouble if you're going to back down when you find it. 

    It plays a large part in why I hate going out, I don't want to be bothered yet I seem to have a sign on my head saying I do xD 

    My advice would be to just hold your temper and ignore it though. It's not worth either outcome if it turns violent. Either you lose and get hurt or you win and potentially get arrested, even if you were only defending yourself. It's not worth risking either outcome over some stupid knackers with big mouths.

  • If you've been taught to hit first if you think you're going to be attacked, you haven't had a very good teacher, I'm afraid. Most masters are very careful to instill, "defence NOT attack". That's just macho boasting, to be honest, and does nothing to further the good name of martial arts. 30+ years experience, 3 different disciplines (all full contract) though more years in Shaolin than Ju Jitsu or Muay Thai. Multiple black belts and countrywide teaching/workshops experience. A competent practitioner will block/restrain, not attack. That's the whole ethos of martial arts. 

  • I've had exactly the same. I've even got a routine, nice, pleasant but cognitively destabilising reply in the hopper...

    You sound a bit more "handy" than me, so you may not have had as much time to get used to it. It seems to be normal neurotypical behaviour to go out and find someone to pick an argument with, and they derive pleasure from it if you play the game as it is meant to be played. "Games People Play" a book that I often recommend as a "self help book", also places the rules of most neurotypical games in front of you, and you then get a real of choice of whether to play or not and supplies the knowledge you need to beat many would be attackers without having to take your hands out of your pockets.

    I once got to watch a would-be mugger trying to stay "on script" whilst I just kept fucking up his game until he gave it up in frustration so he went to get his mate to help him have a second go.which as it happened also failed, when I did take my hands out of my pockets.. My hands were empty, so no-one got hurt, and we all learned a few life lessons before I finally got to go home...

  • aye thats the sort of thing im on about.... its a bit daft their intimidating jerk move they do is one in which they expose their head and jerk it forward, making it very easy for them to be knocked out as they give forward momentum to their face to help aid the forward momentum of your fist to it making for the punch to their face being far more hurtful.... they are pretty daft and seem to lack any sense of danger.

  • some people dont realise how aggressive they act and appear

  • I punched a chav in the face one. Accidentally mind you. A gang of lads were coming down the road and one veers off from the group making right for me. Less than 3 seconds to decide what to do. Looks like he’s gona take a swing at me so I go into a fighting stance fists up. Just as my fists go up he stops leans forward in a spasmodic jerk and screams at me. And just as he does my knuckles and his chin connect neither one of us expecting the others sudden movement.

    and the young man looks at me with this wounded expression and says why’d you do that and runs off to join his friends. I was thinking to myself I might easily ask the same question.

    yeah there are times when you wonder if there is a better way to stop people picking fights for the sake of it. :p https://youtu.be/04clpd7h0b0

  • Just be careful out there!

  • yeah i thought on what prison would be like for me many times, and i agree it would be aweful, like torture. which made me think, why is death sentence banned when the death sentence is much better than a long time in jail? .... id rather pick death sentence personally.

  • doesnt matter, if someone jerks at you in attack and you see it before your brain can tell you its not a attack, then your automatic defence is to punch as thats how your body reacts well most flinch tbh but you learn to punch instead of flinch. and if a camera sees it then they will pick up on the lads jerk move that triggered your automatic defence response too. all you need is for there to be a sign that the guy is gonna attack you for defence to be valid. most places teach to look for these subtle signs of impending attack and to strike first, because whoever lands the first hit is usually the one that will win at the end in most occasions. so alot of places teach to see these signs and to be proactive in defence. as i said, if they tried this to anyone else who actually looks at them when they pass, theyd have been hit... by anyone else who actually looks at them as they pass if they tried this. as they gave away sign and signalled a attack, on signal of a attack is your automatic signal to defend whether you can win or not, as thats self protection, the signs say its on and your being attacked, whether you think you can win or not doesnt matter, all there is then is a need to protect yourself, and in that you need to react on sign of attack, and the best protection is to strike first and most directly and deal with the threat.

    i guess me not looking at people leaves me open to being sucker punched by anyone. perhaps i will force myself to uncomfortably stare at everyone i pass from now on lol need to be able to read the physical signs to avoid sucker punch at least.

  • What The Riddler said is one possibility of what could happen - another is that the police would most likely be involved and it would seriously backfire on you. You could even go to prison, which would be the most horrendous experience and then afterwards there's loads you can't do if you've got a criminal record, particularly if it's for violence. Wanting to hurt someone physically is understandable when you're very angry, but it really never is the answer for anyone involved.

  • this lad would have been knocked out.

    And while you were punching one of them, the others would be pulling a knife  and we’d all be remembering what a good guy you were and how you used to contribute to the forum.

    Really, really not worth it dude!

  • they are lucky i am not the type to look at people when i pass. if i was looking at them more clearly and especially his face and saw their movement id have probably mistaken it for a active attack and hit him in defence as i was taught to look for these signs of attack and to hit them fast before they can land their first blow as a means of defence. they got very lucky that i dont look at them to spot it early enough to hit them first as taught. if they tried this *** on any of the guys that taught me, this lad would have been knocked out. very unwise to give away attack signal especially if they are not actually going to attack. they just justify a defensive reaction.