Hi my daughter/son as asd. But as so many meltdowns were he bites his self punchs walls and bangs his head on floor. Hes also transgender wanting to be a boy instead of a girl.he dosnt go out of house cos of anxity. His safe place is his bedroom. He is 17 and i dont know what i can do to help him. Please can anyone give me advice . He also tells me he wishes he was dead.
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do not listen to all the shills on this site, they are writing virtue signalling comments for the sake of social points. i suspect alot of them are even NTs with the way they try to push a square peg into a round hole and then threaten everyone else with hate speech laws when people point out that doesnt fit there.
if you want true advice you wont get it here, all you will get is generic comments that are about as good as "thoughts and prayers" and when you get a good real comment everyone will get it deleted.... you cannot get advice here im sorry to say. too many lying NTs posing for social credit score here.
changing gender is like getting a tattoo these days.... most tattoos people regret but tattoos can be removed, although some still feel regret and trapped with those tattoos and dont know how to remove them... dont let social scientists and influencers force your daughter into doing something destructive, this is not a tattoo.... this is more permanent and damaging and there is many examples of regrets on this type of thing, like the guy that became the cat man, he regret that so much and couldnt undo it that ....well you can research it yourself.... be careful with these permanent changes and ignore all of these virtue signalling charlatans that will spout a load of generic nonsense that they feel you want to hear and feel that will give them some sort of social virtue points with others.... dont trust those people...
This just doesn't seem helpful - if these aren't things you personally struggle with, it's OK to not engage. In fact, there are so many topics and discussions, it might be useful to occasionally pass over a few and not add to the post, keep all your responses as 'secrets' or a pause for the cause. I don't like to create more confusion if it's needless.
Most of what you have said is better presented and served and exposed by a female who transitioned or thought about transitioning - from his/her or their perspective. Most of what you've stated doesn't get to the heart of this matter. Gender is completely irrelevant if I want to kill myself.
It's OK here to simply 1. allow yourself to feel the emotional turbulance of this individual and the individuals who hurt for them. And 2. Not respond or just say "I feel for you". It's OK to afford another a moment in their post and to let it be all about them. Creating a discipline or exorcizing ones need to info-dump when it's not about something enjoyable is worth the mental workout in a situation where: 1. it doesn't apply to my experience and 2. suicide is mentioned.
ethics could be a good one to think upon though, what is ethics and how it relates to this. is it the thing that makes NTs blunt out lie to your face and make them feel they are doing good? ....i dont do lies... so perhaps if ethics is lies then i do lack ethics. although i dunno i may have came close to regretting my truth one time and thinking on that, i blunt out told someone that the person they thought was their friend didnt really like them when i volunteered at a charity shop one time, although it had more context than that which i forgot now, i thought i was doing good by telling them the truth of the matter as the person they was following around always moaned about how they wish they would leave them alone but never could tell them to their face. but i guess the effect ended bad. i guess lies to preserve some form of weird continuation or something is ethics? meh i dont lie.... i find it really hard to lie even when its covering up something bad i have done, i cant do it and usually end up telling the truth.
honesty is a virtue though lol but what is ethics? surely ethics are a virtue too which means being blunt and telling the truth is not against ethics as that would clash with virtue and i guess ethics is supposed to be some form of virtue?
edit: sorry but i thought and looked into this before you can reply lol virtue is actually ethics.... virtue is the foundation and the very first of all human ethics on the planet.... and thus you preach ethics while your ethics are those of telling white lies... that is not ethical as any lie even a white lie is unvirtuous and virtue is ethics and so even white lies are unethical..... perhaps the opposite of virtue is also ethics... that would be sin.... so your ethics are that of sin.... but sin is morally wrong ethics.... while virtue was the morally good ethics...
now if a kid was brainwashed into thinking they are born into the wrong body and are actually a tree and got upset and suicidal then for being a human when they have been fooled into thinking they are a tree.... do you pander to this and then plant your kid in the garden? ,..... or do you instead try to reverse that damage, bring them back to sense and then find and go after the brainwashers that drove your kid man and made your kid think they was a tree? .... you see which is ethical here? ... the brainwashers are unethical.... they need to be gone after and stopped for their practices are unethical... but its also unethical for you to go along with it and then plant that kid in the garden isnt it.... so pray tell me how your ethics stand now... as you can see i dont just comment anything... i think... i think and that is all i ever do, which is why i can write so much and then still write more. so your previous arguments of me commenting and not thinking are perhaps projections of your self? because they dont suit me... how many times today have you thought of this topic? ... i have thought of it all night and all day up until now.... who doesnt think here then?
Let me give you a word of advice, young man: you will never be afforded the kind of help in the world you are receiving here in this forum from older and wiser autistic individuals who can see Right Through You.
Who have been where you think you are and managed to get ahold of their control issues.
This is a space for Growth: No one picked an argument. It appears you have not been given proper boundaries and so you do not know where they reside.
It appears you have been treated harshly, and bluntly, uncared for and so you do not know how to care for and be kind to others.
You have most likely not been helped to understand ethical manners of behaviour and practice in the least or taught how to seek understanding.
You are ill mannered, inconsiderate and inappropriate. Most likely you have been left feral and it is not admirable.
Humans like you, untended to, running wild, malfunctioning in all the Ego Centric ways only create MORE problems for Autistic Individuals (if you actually are autistic).
If I were you, I would shut up, sit down, and seek guidance. If you feel offended at what I'm saying? Let that and let that shock be a starting point. Be thankful if you can actually tap into that as a compass and follow it to a place of growth.
To the person who started this thread: I apologise for all of this - it looks like you struck a chord of some sort with this chap (perhaps there's a massive issue here with his back story and what you've said that he needs some counselling for) and I'm so sorry for what you're going through.
and yet your the one that came to me to start a fight with me? ..... check this all again and see who is the antagonistic one here... you could have ignored me and shut up but instead you decided to pick a argument on a sensitive topic and be so insensiitive as to start a war in the middle of this topic which is rather insensitive of you, and that other person who picked a fight too who has been harrassing me all over this forum of which to them i might have to issue a initial warning to cease harrassment so then i can take it farther if they ignore the warning.
You are neither qualified for intervention nor applying proper ethics with engagement.
You do not have a PhD nor are not asking diagnostic questions.
This forceful and defensive approach is out of bounds and out of control. If you want to help and not perpetuate hurt/antagonise further, Go to the Library or to Uni. There are manuals and tutorials and shelves of books on how to psychoanalyse properly. You will require mentorship and a stern but kind hand understanding how to problem solve when the heart is a matter of consequence. I do not hear the words of a caring adult man in anything you've said.
You are not equipped to be useful in this conversation.
but then you dont tackle the problem and thus the suicide takes place.... how are you then helping? .... how is it helping to not tackle the issues and instead dance around them and allow them to grow worse?
when a issue is sensitive like this, you have to get to the point... if you dance around you will be too late to save a life yes?
The way you are engaging here is forceful - especially by refusing to even attempt to understand more pressing and important underlying issues.
The only person here speaking about mutilation is you. On repeat no less. Please stop. Take this fixation to a new thread if you must.
But to try and continue to force and shove everyone's face into something ESPECIALLY when suicide is mentioned, is not an ethical or caring way to behave.
The way you are engaging here is forceful - especially by refusing to even attempt to understand more pressing and important underlying issues.
The only person here speaking about mutilation is you. On repeat no less. Please stop. Take this fixation to a new thread if you must.
But to try and continue to force and shove everyone's face into something ESPECIALLY when suicide is mentioned, is not an ethical or caring way to behave.
ethics could be a good one to think upon though, what is ethics and how it relates to this. is it the thing that makes NTs blunt out lie to your face and make them feel they are doing good? ....i dont do lies... so perhaps if ethics is lies then i do lack ethics. although i dunno i may have came close to regretting my truth one time and thinking on that, i blunt out told someone that the person they thought was their friend didnt really like them when i volunteered at a charity shop one time, although it had more context than that which i forgot now, i thought i was doing good by telling them the truth of the matter as the person they was following around always moaned about how they wish they would leave them alone but never could tell them to their face. but i guess the effect ended bad. i guess lies to preserve some form of weird continuation or something is ethics? meh i dont lie.... i find it really hard to lie even when its covering up something bad i have done, i cant do it and usually end up telling the truth.
honesty is a virtue though lol but what is ethics? surely ethics are a virtue too which means being blunt and telling the truth is not against ethics as that would clash with virtue and i guess ethics is supposed to be some form of virtue?
edit: sorry but i thought and looked into this before you can reply lol virtue is actually ethics.... virtue is the foundation and the very first of all human ethics on the planet.... and thus you preach ethics while your ethics are those of telling white lies... that is not ethical as any lie even a white lie is unvirtuous and virtue is ethics and so even white lies are unethical..... perhaps the opposite of virtue is also ethics... that would be sin.... so your ethics are that of sin.... but sin is morally wrong ethics.... while virtue was the morally good ethics...
now if a kid was brainwashed into thinking they are born into the wrong body and are actually a tree and got upset and suicidal then for being a human when they have been fooled into thinking they are a tree.... do you pander to this and then plant your kid in the garden? ,..... or do you instead try to reverse that damage, bring them back to sense and then find and go after the brainwashers that drove your kid man and made your kid think they was a tree? .... you see which is ethical here? ... the brainwashers are unethical.... they need to be gone after and stopped for their practices are unethical... but its also unethical for you to go along with it and then plant that kid in the garden isnt it.... so pray tell me how your ethics stand now... as you can see i dont just comment anything... i think... i think and that is all i ever do, which is why i can write so much and then still write more. so your previous arguments of me commenting and not thinking are perhaps projections of your self? because they dont suit me... how many times today have you thought of this topic? ... i have thought of it all night and all day up until now.... who doesnt think here then?
Let me give you a word of advice, young man: you will never be afforded the kind of help in the world you are receiving here in this forum from older and wiser autistic individuals who can see Right Through You.
Who have been where you think you are and managed to get ahold of their control issues.
This is a space for Growth: No one picked an argument. It appears you have not been given proper boundaries and so you do not know where they reside.
It appears you have been treated harshly, and bluntly, uncared for and so you do not know how to care for and be kind to others.
You have most likely not been helped to understand ethical manners of behaviour and practice in the least or taught how to seek understanding.
You are ill mannered, inconsiderate and inappropriate. Most likely you have been left feral and it is not admirable.
Humans like you, untended to, running wild, malfunctioning in all the Ego Centric ways only create MORE problems for Autistic Individuals (if you actually are autistic).
If I were you, I would shut up, sit down, and seek guidance. If you feel offended at what I'm saying? Let that and let that shock be a starting point. Be thankful if you can actually tap into that as a compass and follow it to a place of growth.
To the person who started this thread: I apologise for all of this - it looks like you struck a chord of some sort with this chap (perhaps there's a massive issue here with his back story and what you've said that he needs some counselling for) and I'm so sorry for what you're going through.
and yet your the one that came to me to start a fight with me? ..... check this all again and see who is the antagonistic one here... you could have ignored me and shut up but instead you decided to pick a argument on a sensitive topic and be so insensiitive as to start a war in the middle of this topic which is rather insensitive of you, and that other person who picked a fight too who has been harrassing me all over this forum of which to them i might have to issue a initial warning to cease harrassment so then i can take it farther if they ignore the warning.
You are neither qualified for intervention nor applying proper ethics with engagement.
You do not have a PhD nor are not asking diagnostic questions.
This forceful and defensive approach is out of bounds and out of control. If you want to help and not perpetuate hurt/antagonise further, Go to the Library or to Uni. There are manuals and tutorials and shelves of books on how to psychoanalyse properly. You will require mentorship and a stern but kind hand understanding how to problem solve when the heart is a matter of consequence. I do not hear the words of a caring adult man in anything you've said.
You are not equipped to be useful in this conversation.
but then you dont tackle the problem and thus the suicide takes place.... how are you then helping? .... how is it helping to not tackle the issues and instead dance around them and allow them to grow worse?
when a issue is sensitive like this, you have to get to the point... if you dance around you will be too late to save a life yes?
