Is Autism 'a man's world'?

Solipsist said:

Constantly masking and competing in a world not made for them. NT ways of seeing symbols and words. The entire reality wrapped up in words that are not theirs. 

In larger sectors of the ideological 'whirled' (where people suffer more from survival of the elitist delusions and all manner of abusively normalised tribalisms and individualisms and all that) your statement is to some extent quite true.

Whereas to various degrees adequate or even appropriate social-environmental facilitation means that in the real world of humans and otherwise; it and the cosmos are more befitting as individuality is not a crime but natural by design ~ whether that individuality be male, female or just as beautifully otherwise in terms of belonging collectively in the tribal sense, or individually in the nomadic or more isolated senses.

Caelus, I find your unique take on life very refreshing, mate. Some of what you say is tripe, but at least its honest and authentic. Unlike many others who can only seem to trot out opinions and views that they've heard from someone else and ones they think everyone else will find acceptable. 

outdated to say that the way people are online is different to the way they are in person? 
dunno, could be outdated, but being outdated doesnt mean its not true.... online i can find millions of things to say, i can write essays upon essays.... real life you will struggle to get 1 single word from me.... and if you do get something from me it probably wont count as a word but rather as a random tic phrase lol

You've got some very strange, and some very outdated, ideas. 

I wonder if they're the two that I also have a problem with. Interesting. 

Your post proves my point!

There is no scientific evidence that even comes close to suggest that men are more intelligent than women it's one of the closest similarities that men and women share.

Why do you think that men are more intelligent than women? (genuine questions I'm curious to know)

There's one AS woman at work (and a couple I suspect to be AS with my own personal Aspie-dar) who I find very easy to talk to. Just straight forward and I find my brain doesn't have to do as much work. It feels quite natural. 

I think I'm lucky where I work as I'm mostly on my own from colleagues during the day but can dip in and out. When I think of other jobs where I've worked with mostly women, yes, it's been sometimes more difficult. Especially with the ones who were similar in age to me when I was in my twenties. 

I hate, hate being told I'm quiet. Although this hasn't happened for years. But when it did, I was always made to feel that being quiet was somehow wrong.  It's my natural demeanour. It makes other people uncomfortable. As a woman we are supposed to be the social ones. Men can get away with it (he's the strong silent type) but there's more expectation on women (what's wrong with her? Why's she being so quiet?) A lot of people struggle with quiet because they can't work it out. In the past and even a certain extent now, I feel a duty to talk. This could be the mask I've built up. I'm gradually learning this doesn't need to be so.

I too love being on my own. I think my partner and I work well together as we understand each others' needs.

I don't take sides. The forum has helped massively. To get things off my chest and seek views from others.

you fit in fine and fit in better than you think,,,,,,  are probably arent as blunt, and more considerate, which is a good thing. 

Hi. I am a female, feminine, straight aspie and I also find that people who present as men are easier to talk to than those who present as women. I love being on my own (though I am married to an NT man) but when I have been in a social situation, I can usually chat to an NT man quite comfortably. I feel that they are not judging me and are treating me as an equal. I have chatted to a couple of men on the autistic spectrum recently, but I felt less comfortable. I got the impression that they didn't view me as an equal, more of a mother figure. They even showed me their minor bodily wounds as if I was supposed to tend to them. I have two children and I don't want any more! However, I am sure that all the men on here are lovely! (I am a typical female peacemaker!) I definitely do not connect with NT women. For example, I volunteer at a charity shop and the other day, the female manager and assistant  manager engaged in banter/low-level bullying by telling me I was being too quiet. I was simply getting on with the task they set me! I don't really mind, but it made clear I am not going to be friends with them. I don't know any female aspies in person. For now, I am content with just chatting on here.

utter rubbish 

This forum isn’t helping you then. It seems to go against autism traits. I’ve only joined because I’ve noticed two members giving all the rest autists a bad name. Not sure but they seem like old racist Boomers to me..?

Are you talking about men and women in the past or present tense? You've mixed your tenses and I'm not sure if I should be offended or not (by your views, not the bad grammar).

Solipsist said:

The ones in denial of their autism.

I feel this could be me. However, it's very difficult to suddenly change your life over night after a diagnosis as an adult. Although I would say I've always  been my own person, I've never tried to be any body else. (Not taking into account unconscious masking to get through the day).

Constantly masking and competing in a world not made for them. NT ways of seeing symbols and words. The entire reality wrapped up in words that are not theirs. 

Yes I agree. Although I would add that I think the "female presentation" can also be applied to men so I think there's an "atypical" presentation but it's quite common. I dont think its helpful to look at it in terms of gender because this excludes non binary people. Having said that, if we didn't have these distinctions, a lot of women including myself probably wouldn't get diagnosed. This is just my opinion.  I don't feel I fit in with either camp - AS or "NT". I don't  feel I have a lot in common with a lot of people on the spectrum, however this is just my judgements from coming on here and reading up on the net or watching youtube. I don't feel like a geek or nerd.  I dont like using AS language like 'meltdown' or 'stimming' .I have friends, I have a job (I don't go from one job to another which I have read is common for people on the spectrum). I feel somewhere in the middle and I don't know what my preference is. My friends are unconventional but I don't think they're on the spectrum. Having said that, a lot of people get on my nerves but i couldnt tell you if this is because theyre NT or AS. I too can be "over emotional". Also, Im not blunt. I put this down to being very socially aware and not wanting to cause trouble. I can't handle conflict. Being blunt is something I definitely don't relate to. I've read about different types of masking and I think my life choices have been a type of masking and very much helped shape the idea that I am somewhere in between. Also, not knowing about being AS until 6 months ago so I haven't held myself back in life.

I find men easier to talk to. Yes, women are more chatty and provide more cues but men just seem to tax my brain far less. I can talk to men if they are chatty. If they're expecting me to "be the woman" and lead, then I struggle. 

I don't feel weird enough to be full on Aspie but I feel a bit too weird for normal circles. I'm happy with that. I'm my own person.

hmmm internet and real life are different though.
the people talking online would probably be the people who dont say a word in real life. typing and writing is a more direct passage to a persons thoughts and brain without the barrier of vocalisation to hold them back. and most autisits would be very held back vocally and thus wont say much irl, and so in that case in person you would probably get along with them more than NTs in person. as in person the NT is more likely to say or do stuff you wont like while the autist would be more quiet and none vocal. so youd get along with everyone more in person.

and generally the autist type is usually the type that gets banned and censored from all other social media and platforms for being that blunt and putting facts above feelings or simply not knowing how the facts could hurt peoples feelings. 

as for emotionally exploding, males do that too, but males generally have to mask that or change it into something cooler, as showing any emotion to a man is weak and soft, unless its anger, thats totally ok and cool so long as it doesnt skew your logic and bork your argument then its uncool. emotionally males have to appear to be more stoic. but we do feel lotta emotion and do flip and throw things and go out of control, just we do that unseen out of sight from others. alpha wolf that shows weakness of any kind will be ripped to shreds by the betas who all want to get ahead of him and be the new alpha.

Solipsist said:

trying to be neurotypical. 

Not at all - they rise through the ranks because they have a lot of the typical female conversational & interpersonal skills but with the hard logic of the aspie brain - pretty much unstoppable in business.

The outcasts is true to themselves - the ones rising to your idea of success - trying to be neurotypical.