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GB News (New British News Network)

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*Precision I have no political affiliation. I subscribe to no political dogma or movement. I have highlighted this new news channel as a much needed antidote to the partisan news we are currently subjected to. Will it be free from bias? No, but at least we all get to see the extremes of both sides of the political divide. I get my news from an entirely independant team  who are committed to delivering non-partisan, professional journalism. Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar. It's a fearless anti-establishment Youtube show and podcast with contributors from across the political divide. Their aim is to cut through the media bias. Breaking Points Non-Partisan News & Analysis Precision*

Britain's got a new TV network. The new British network has vowed to fight "cancel culture" and reflect voices not heard in the partisan mainstream media and state-controlled BBC. A spokesperson for GB News said its aim was to "puncture the pomposity of our elites in politics, business, media and academia and expose their growing promotion of cancel culture for the threat to free speech and democracy that it is". 

Cancel Culture is the term given to left-wing and left-leaning attempts at suppressing of free expression and political diversity by permanently shaming and ostracising individuals who threaten their political and social orthodoxy. 

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  • They probably would have called the civil rights movement 'woke' if the term existed back then. The same for the sufragettes, and those who fought for an end to the persecution of gay people. I dare say the recognition that those of us with mental health and mental illness issues now have is partly the result if progressive/woke people who worked to change the things about society they didn't like, the rules they didn't agree with.

    It wasn't woke people who made the rules. It was the like of Murdoch, the likes of Andrew Neil and others in the media who helped dictate how people were treated, who helped decide the language with which people were referred to. And now there's a dawning culture or respect and recognition for people's differences the likes of Neil want to treat it as a bad thing. 

    What have the right wingers like Neil done for society? What have angry, reactionary, right wingers done for the world?

    I'm not 'woke' but I know which side is more likely to take us forward as a society and which side is more likely to take us backwards. And it certainly isn't the old red faced potatriot going on about how 'You can't say anything anymore!'. 

    Oh, and while he's playing it off as being about countering the 'mainstream' 'left' media now, HE WAS PART OF IT UNTIL JUST A YEAR OR SO AGO. If it was so bad, so left-wing, so terribly PC why did he stick around so long? Why did he work for the BBC, of all organisations?

    Because he's a fraud looking to take your money by selling you ads in between bits about what immigrants are getting that you're not and a segment from Katie Hopkins about how masks are useless and as long as you walk round with your head stuck up your own **** you needn't worry about catching Covid!

    We need to be better than this. Men like Neil seek to profit from the divides in our society, not heal them. GB News will not bring the country together, it will drive us further apart. The ONLY THING keeping the 'Elites' in power is US. 

    The sooner we stop letting these rats turn us against each other, arguing about who the biggest shits are, the sooner we can stop them flushing us all down the bog.

    That 100,000 death toll is made up of all kinds. Black, white, rich, poor, right, left. The one thing they all have in common is a government and a system that doesn't give a *** about them.

  • in reply to Puff Pastry Hangman

    I think you're sort-of missing a lot of the detail.

    Left and right are irrelevant - what you find is most 'conservative' leaning people are generally happy with their lives - they understand how things work and what is best for long-term survival of the species, ,culture, history etc.

    Most left-leaning people tend to be young and inexperienced but very vocal - as they have been through time - it takes knowledge and education to understand your place in the world and to understand the interaction of al the things that make up society.

    The immature left doesn't understand that - they have their heads filled with all sorts of rubbish but they know nothing.    They think they know best - like petulant children.    It's also shown that those who want to destroy everything are actually harbouring some severe mental problems that need sorting long before they should be allowed to tell anyone else what to do.

    The whole 'woke' thing is about seeing just how far you can push a valueless, amoral, culture-less narrative where anything goes - so there is no right or wrong - to totally confuse children making them malleable 'foot soldiers' on The Long March.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Most conservative leaning people are happy with their lives because most conservative leaning people have never actually had to struggle, never actually had to operate within the system.

    Most left leaning people are victims of that system, or at the very least acknowledge that system is broken and seek to change it. You call it immaturity. I'm sure they called things like the civil rights movement, the suffragette movement, the fight for gay rights, all of these things-I'm sure they called them the equivelent of 'woke' and what have you, back then. 

    So let me ask you, here and now, is there anything wrong with being gay? The answer is no. The reason we live in a society where you and I are free to say that without at the very least being condemned is because people FOUGHT for that, in spite of all the Andrew Neils and Rupert Murdochs of the day and their attempts to demonise that fight. 

    You say the left are immature, I say they're the reason we have these things, these rights. Because the right, as you say, would have kept things the way the were, what with their enhanced ability to know what's right for society. I really hope you don't believe that. That's the sort of pandering to the upper classes mentality that has this country in such a mess. They don't know ***-the Covid crisis should show you that. And if they're not clueless, they're something much worse. 

    As for valueless, amoral, culurelessness, is Prince Andrew left wing? Trump? Epstein? Let's look at Neil, his working for the BBC. Didn't they cover up Saville, and a whole host other crap that had been going on for decades? Where were his morals then? Or did he just not know? 

  • in reply to O
    O said:
    I don't really see the point in that statement, do you mean that all of these things were fought for by left leaning people or just people who saw things in the world that were wrong and though they should try and do something about it?

    Yes, do you have a different version of history ? 

  • in reply to Deleted user

    Plus the Incarceration of Christians by Communist Regimes.

  • in reply to Puff Pastry Hangman
    Puff Pastry Hangman said:
    Most left leaning people are victims of that system, or at the very least acknowledge that system is broken and seek to change it.

    And there, Puff, you have clearly articulated the very essence of all left-wing ideology: victimhood.

    It's my experience that people on the Left  see themselves and everyone else as victims.  They totally reject the idea of human beings having personal agency (unless it's someone who they disagree with). 

    On closer analysis, it turns out that this mentality of victimhood is not borne out by historical fact cf. The whole of human history: The Soviet Deportation of Hundreds of Thousands of Hungarians to their Deaths. Communist Mass Murder in Yugoslavia, The Jacobin Terror in France,The Slaughter of Tens of Millions by Lenin, Trotsky.  The Tens of Millions of State Murders in Mao's China, The Millions of Forced abortions and policies of infanticide under Communist totalitarian Regimes and their one-child policies. The Mass Murder and Starvation of North Koreans in Communist Concentration Camps...

  • in reply to Plastic

    no idea but I'm sure it will be hilariously stupid 

  • in reply to O

    yeah - the whole BLM-scam is now imploding.   I wonder what's next.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Yep and that's why this wave of extreme left ideology will ultimately fail because it changes hourly based on who cries the loudest in the moment 

  • in reply to O

    But that's the whole intersectionality game - infinite oppressed groups - all fighting amongst themselves for the 'most oppressed' prize.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Exactly when it comes down to it everyone is oppressed on some level so where does the line get drawn and who gets to draw that line 

  • in reply to O

    Yes - there's oppression points available to shut down any conversations  Smiley

  • in reply to Plastic

    Yup but the moment I say I'm a jew and that my people have been oppressed I'm allowed to speak, lol it's so funny watching people change when ever I have that kind of argument 

  • in reply to O
    O said:
    if I don't agree I'm somehow a bigot, racist etc etc

    That's all to shut you up - and the laws around that are to shut you up   or else.

    Control the narrative, you control the people.

  • in reply to Nick Squiggler

    I don't really see the point in that statement, do you mean that all of these things were fought for by left leaning people or just people who saw things in the world that were wrong and though they should try and do something about it?

    I don't like any politicians right now, by nature and temperament I would be considered more on the left. I just don't like it when people try and force their opinions onto me and if I don't agree I'm somehow a bigot, racist etc etc

  • in reply to Nick Squiggler

    You do know the whole suffrage thing was so only the well-off upper class women would be allowed to vote - they didn't want poor riff-raff to be voting - but you are obviously missing the vast majority of the story - you just have the feel-good highlights - but not the truth.

  • in reply to O

    If women hadn't protested and done terrible things they simply would not have had the vote. If people hadn't gone on strikes they never would have had paid holidays or weekends and children would still be getting killed under looms in cotton mills.

    The whole world is ridiculously polarised. I'm watching Prime Minister's question time at the moment. Neither side ever answers the other. I do hope this sit doesn't end up like this. No one actually listens to the other side, please let's not do this here too.

    The world has decent living standards because they were fought for. The powers that be will always be happy to get away with inequality. Fifty years ago a diagnosis of Autism would mean that many of us would be in institutions being abused and fed on chemical straightjackets. 

    Stability is nice, but stable abuse is not wanted by anyone, Stability is also very closely related to stagnation. Change is annoying but change to make a better more equal world would be very nice.

    Let's not divide over politics.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Couldn't have said it better, people don't seem to see that this left vs right thing going on at the moment will only lead to bad place, discussion and debate is what's needed not just trying to one up everyone all the time with your self imposed moral superiority which you probably don't have have when life gets real

  • in reply to O

    Depending of how you rate communism or fascism, millions of people have paid the price for 'progressives' who want to change the system.

    All are eventually defeated and stability is returned - the only thing that changes is the body count.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Yeah that doesn't make sense there are lefty people who have done just as many reprehensible things as righty people...

  • in reply to O

    Exactly - and the pointing at individual high-profile people with questionable financial and moral positions doesn't mean anything.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Yeah that's a bit of sweeping statement, so do conservative people not have struggles in their life?

  • in reply to Puff Pastry Hangman
    Puff Pastry Hangman said:
    Most conservative leaning people are happy with their lives because most conservative leaning people have never actually had to struggle, never actually had to operate within the system.

    Wow that's a cheap lie.     The classic 'Student Grant' unhappy whiner..

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