Differnt methods of Processing.?

I heard that Autistic people are supposed to be good at drawing.

They announced it as though it was a great discovery that we process things differently.

I am not good at drawing and have very bad perception so could not do Geometry at School.

That might be because of  Co-Existing conditions such as Dyspraxia.

I do remember a Psychiatrist wondering whether I had a difficult birth because my Verbal Reasoning is good but Perception is poor.

The difficult birth could have damaged the perception side of my brain.

One researcher said that she cannot do research on me as my Perception is so poor so I am not typically Autistic.

I am sure there are many people labelled Autistic  who have poor pereception and are not good at drawing such as myself.

I wrote an article which said Do not Steroetype Autistic people and Non Autistic People.

We are all different and people with the label Autistic are so different from each other.

May be things will change when the new brain scan is in opperation as not so many people who are not really Autistic are given the label as Autistic.

David

Looking forward to replies.

  • I do not know whether you are on the Autistic spectrum.

    Not everyone who is depressed is Autistic.

    When I was nineteen a Psychiatrist said that I was mildly Autistic.

    That was back in 1976.

    In 1966 a Psychiatrist at the Maudsley wanted to send me to an Autistic School.

    I did not go to one.

    It is all probably going to change soon with the new brain scan so they wont have to go by life stories or patterns of behaviour.

    A new brain scan has been invented which can detect Autism.

    There are reports about the new brain scan last year I think August 2010 which you can find on the web,

    Someone was told that the patient does not have Altzimers partly the result of a brain scan so Autism might be detected that way.

    David

  • I feel for you so much. You sound like my son although with our help he has improved considerably. Why are you undiagnosed? Can you not go to your GP and get him to refer you to someone who can give you a diagnosis. I know there is a lot of talk about being pigeon-holed or labelled when you have a diagnosis but I have found that it has helped my son a lot.

    Who looks after you? Can they help you to get a diagnosis or at least some help?

    Even if you don't get help with the aspergers you should get some help with depression. Be sure to tell your GP how you feel about being better off dead, he must help you!

    By the way you are wrong you are not better off dead, people care about you and would hate a world without you in it!

  • hmm i am an undiagnosed aspie,who has social phobia,selective mutism,ocd,severe depression,severe anxiety,hundreds of phobias and other problems. I was never good at anything and envy those who has a special talent in something. I am 43 yrs old and have problems with every aspect of life. There doesnt seem to be any help or support for someone like me with complex problems. I have problems understanding all sorts of paperwork with complicated words and numbers. I have problems understanding technology and only can cope with emailing and looking up websites. I speak slowly and have slow movements but speak ok. I didnt speak a full sentence with anybody until i was 26. I lack life skills which other people my age take for granted. I dont feel i have much of a life and will have less of a life with david cameron prime minister cutting benefits and forcing people in full time jobs who are unable to cope with all these anxieties. I think i would be better of dead!

  • Yes I have difficulty finding my way roung.

    My perception is below a hundred but verbal reasoning is above a hundred.

    The Maudsley discovered my difference in IQ when I was about nine years old in 1966.

    When I was grown up another Psychiatrist wondered whether I had a difficult birth as there is such a great difference between Verbal Reasoning and Perception.

    A researcher refused to do research on me as the difference between the two was so great.

    I am not good at learning foreign languages.

    Although I was brought up with German all around me when I was small I can only speak a few words of German.

    David

  • I remember a boy being slippered for not doing his homework.

    I liked that teacher as he even gave me lifts in his car but he gave a boy six strokes for not doing his Homework.

    After that I saw the boy constantly painting in the artroom missing his other lessons.

    I in the end was not allowed to do Art as the teacher said it cost a shilling to buy the paint and it is a waste of money and time me doing Art.

    That boy no doubt had learning difficulties.

    It is well known that people with learning difficulties like drawing so I do not think it proves that Autistic people are all artists.

    The Autistic people who are supposed to have special tallents might be nothing of the sort just Autistic people enjoying Drawing.

    David

  • The wide variation in both skills and difficulties presents considerable problems supporting people on the autistic spectrum in further and higher education. There isn't the same support and one to one infrastructure that may be available through schools, and this is particularly so in university education. Students are supported so as to be "on a level playing field" supposedly, by means of facilitators, note takers, counsellors etc. However teaching staff engaging with students on the spectrum whether in collective environments such as lectures, or one to one environments such as personal tutorials, have close direct involvement with such students and their issues.

    Perhaps because there are still only comparatively small numbers of students going through university with a diagnosis, the opportunities to build up a knowledge of different personalities, abilities, special interests, specific problems and associated disabilities is as yet small. Also some students with a diagnosis do not make this known, or do not take up support services, which means teaching staff are interfacing directly with people with probable ASD whom they cannot deal with on that level. And of course lots of people come through undiagnosed.

    The very varied characteristics are challenging for teaching staff, and what is desperately needed is some sort of follow-through of the knowledge gained within the schools system into the university sector.

    Of course this range of differences is immensely valuable sometimes if it provides young people on the spectrum with the opportunities to advance their education and perhaps gain more independence and success after.

    But I do worry the lack of understanding of this variability in post-school education is holding back opportunities for many. I do not know how to change this situation, though maybe in time things will improve. But is taking a long time really helping young people on the spectrum?  And isn't it time we better appreciated the skills people on the spectrum can contribute to society in order to help them realise these possibilities?

  • Hello David

    I also have severe perception difficulties, but I have very good verbal abilities.  I have asperger's syndrome, but I do not have dyspraxia. 

    My statement of SEN at primary school mentioned the huge discrepancy in my IQ, so big that I could not receive a global IQ score. I was, and still am, hopeless at jigsaw puzzles, numbers, organization and spatial awareness. I am excellent at reading complicated texts, philoosophical and historical in nature, and I have a huge vocabulary. I was very good at learning French at school, although sadly I dropped the subject after GCSE level.  Not a typical aspie then, but who is this stereotypical aspie? I could not agree more with your above comments. We are all different; no two aspies are the same, just as no two neuro-typicals are the same.

    Furthermore, my sense of direction is very poor and, like you David, I am really bad at geometry. I do not have Temple Grandin's visual skills-I am an auditory learner, which is why I have to read books aloud in order to process them.

  • Your absolutely right. I have two autistic children and believe my husband to be aspergers and they are all totally different. My husband thinks in pictures and only has to see a picture once to be able to remember it in great detail but he couldn't draw it. My older son is very similar and is currently studying engineering at college. My younger son cannot read so draws alot to communicate but he is no better at drawing than any other 12 year old.

    Everyone is different, especially ASD people.

  • I have just listened to a Radio 4 Programme  Between our Selves about Asperger Syndrome. Tuesday April 5th 2011.9am Radio 4.

    I think it is repeated tonight at 9PM or 9.30PM.

    In any case I expect  you can listen to it on your computer.

    Literally if your computer has that faciiity to listen to programmes.

    I wonder how many people are listning to it.

    Yes it is true that Asperger people take things literally.

    On the other hand:

    People in the street do sometimes ask me whether I am alright and I am afraid in my case they mean it.

    One lady said if you stop suddenly that could be a sign of a heart attack.

    I still maintain that everyone with Asperger Syndrome are individuals so most generalisations are wrong about Asperger Syndrome as explained in my above E Mail

    Even more so with Asperger Syndrome as Asperger Syndrome only means Autistic traits.

    I am not married like the man talking on the radio but people think I talk too much to other people about myself.

    I am different from the man interviewed on the programme.

    David