Does life actually get better? What does it take to get actual help?

Does life actually get better? I've been depressed since around June 2017 and I've only really gotten worse over time.

What does it take to get actual help? I'm under a mental health team, but I also have autism and I'm not sure how they're going to help me with my comorbid conditions. There is an autism inpatient unit, but I think they are reluctant to send me there. I think they think that I can be treated from home, but I don't think I can because I sometimes get thoughts and feelings of self-harm and I so badly want to act on them, but I'm scared of the pain and also if the scar would remind me of when I was in a bad time in my life. I so desperately want help, but I don't want to take an overdose because then I'd have to get my stomach pumped. Cutting is another thing that kinda scares me (not as much as overdosing).

I'm thinking of starving myself, although it causes discomfort, I've done it before and lost weight really quickly. I know my brain would be telling me to eat, but I can do it - I've done it before, I can do it again! If I do starve myself, would the mental health team deem me as unsafe and then have to intervene? I know I'm morbidly obese and require more energy than people who are not obese, but I think it'll make me happier if I starve myself because then I'd lose weight really quickly as well.

I'm just so desperate for help and can't cope with this way of living anymore. It's like no one at the mental health team takes me seriously. It's like my mental illnesses aren't valid because they're not deemed as life threatening.

  • I'm there as well for the past 8 years. I thought I was bad at the start   but now looking back thatvvwas nothing compared with now. I am a doctor but found alll medicine was unhelpful. Drawing music and walking as well as talking to friends. I then tried computer things butvgit arrested for that and nearly killed by police actions. I am now disabled and desperate for justice. Trying art and music

  • I am not a medical Professional but i have used the service multiple times before and have even attempted suicide multiple times.

    I can tell you know that the crisis team is not suitable in treating you. I know that sounds blunt but someone has to be honest with you.

    I can say this from my own experience with absolute understanding and knowledge that they are not equipped or have a basic understanding of how to support patients with autism, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity DIsorder and specific learning conditions with comorbid mental health conditions.

    The crisis do not understand that they need to not only treat the the depression and anxiety but also have to treat the autism related behaviour and disfunction at the time to have any positive outcome and they are not obligated to ensure or oversee you a referred to the correct service and obviously have failed in the duty of care if they haven't referred to you local authority adult social service department. 

    The crisis team staff including psychologists and therapists are not obligated to go through any sort of neurodevelopmental disorder or Specific Learning disorder training and that is a major problems across england. Yet again the Crisis staff and the mental health department are notorious for malpractice when it come to autistic individuals and have clearly failed in their duty of care to recognise their own limitations in treating patients with autism, not only do they fail to recognise autism spectrum disorder but their outdated understanding about autism spectrum diagnosis is dangerous.

    It's also should be noted that they have failed to refer you to appropriate services and have failed in their duty of care to perform the responsibility of safeguarding when you are possible a threat to your own life and have ignored the increased risk of suicide and other health condition associated with autism spectrum disorder. 

    You need to contact adult social service to perform a capability assessment where they will assess your needs. Once assessed they will sign post you organisation that can help and support you. Social services should be able to provide you support workers that can help with housing, benefits and access to work. 

    Their are organisation like shaw trust & Scope that work with individuals with disability, mental health problems and disadvantage backgrounds and provide a range of support to help you become independent unfortunately you need to be referred by the job centre.

                

  • hi i am so sorry that i can't respond to it as there is a lot of words that aren't broken down into little sentences 

    i am here for you to a certain extent of course 

  • Please don't do anything hasty Green-Pens.  Keep talking on here, or to others.  My counsellor always says that emotions are like mushrooms: if they're shut away in the dark, they grow.  But if they're brought into the light they shrivel.  Sharing with someone else how you're feeling can help the emotion to disapate.  Regarding whether anyone at the Samaritans will understand...  it might still be worth a go.  Even if they don't understand the whole picture, they'll definitely have encountered some of your situation before and know what to say. 

    Another thing you could try is meditation: https://taketime.org.uk/  I was really struck when someone who suffers from depression & anxiety told me that they found the Taketime meditations extremely powerful because they felt more fully understood through this than when they talk to a therapist.  It may not be your thing, but I offer it as a suggestion.

    Take care and try to have compassion on yourself x    

  •  self harm is a sort of relieve mechanism ( for me )  I do it every so often when my head has way to many thoughts and I cant process them.  That the issue with the autistic brain it sometimes gets overwhelmed.

    Some people meltdown or shutdownDo you ?   

    I shutdown pretty much every day and now i encourage it so I can continue to function,  the rest of my day and that works really well. 

    My self harm.  when  I do it i induce the pain and the adrenalin but dont cause any damage just a big scratch.  I find this also works well.

    I dont beat myself up about my self harm or my shutdowns. I do them and move on "its just me, its ok "

    U're in a low,  u're going to have many more,  as I will  but  in couple of days u will feel better ,

    Have u self harmed before ?

    the Samaritans will understand, they will vary,, i mean there are many listeners all over the UK so if you ring at different times you will get different people.

    so if you do feel that u are going to kill yourself please ring them,, they are better than you think. you wont be wasting their time 

  • I may give them a call, but still I'm not too sure.

    I post on here because there's bound to be people in a similar boat as me. I just don't know if the Samaritans would understand.

    I'm on antidepressants and antipsychotics for depression and OCD.

    I'm kind of thinking of suicide, but I'm mostly thinking of self harming at the moment. 

  • i was going to train as one but there was certain situations  I felt would scare me for life so I chickened out. They are incredibly nice people  and I wish i was more like them, but I'm not. They are all volunteers and work provide 24hr cover which means some of them work all night then do their job during the day.

     I am not professional so maybe u dont want to speak to me either Slight smile we're alll amateur here and some of us are messed up big time. 

    Talking about your issues always helps.

    R U on anti-depressants ?

    Are you feeling so bad that you are thinking about suicide? 

  • My name on here was Countryroads, but then I changed it. I like the song country roads and there's a Japanese version of it which is really different when translated in English. The picture was linked to my name on here, but I've now changed it.

    I haven't rang the Samaritans because they're not professionals like the NHS. I'm really stubborn in my thinking and will only talk to certain people when it comes to help. 

  • i looked in your profile and there is a picture. Can you tell me about it ? is it linked  to your name ? 

    On a more serious note, did u ring the Samaritans ? if yes what happened  ?

  • Hey NAS69437, 

    Thank you for your lovely comment!

    I honestly just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel anymore. I just can't believe how bad I've become in terms of my health. It's like I just don't care anymore. I don't care if I live, I don't care if I become so physically ill that I need to be hospitalised, what's the point of living this life if I have nothing to hold onto? I experience no enjoyment anymore; nothing makes me happy. I've become this horrible, nasty person. I don't deserve anything in my opinion. 

    I may give the Samaritans a call, but I doubt that'll help me. x

  • Dearest Green-Pens, my heart goes out to you!  I'm not a health professional and I don't have any experience of the mental health team so I can't offer any advice.  But if you're contemplating such drastic self-harm actions, I'd say your condition surely is life-threatening.  Please please please hang on in there.  Don't give up - I do believe recovery IS possible.  You are a beautiful, unique person, and your life is worth fighting for.  If you haven't got anyone else to talk to, try ringing the Samaritans.  I hope and pray that you will find the right support for your needs.  Sending love and prayers x