Does anyone else view NT's as fake?..

Yet another mothballed post seeing the light of day anew.

What gives with this recent reliquary of negativity!

Who digs in the cesspit for these stinkers, anyway?

Cut it out, please! There is no need to stir up more divisiveness. 

If there is an machine intelligence that picks them - it needs a human moderating overseer!

I have been thinking along these lines recently. You have articulated it well. Authenticity, yes this is the word. 

Yes, OMG. When I think about having to work with them, or engage with them I feel like I am going to have a panic attack. I can;t do the fake thing back. I seriously don't know what to do about it? I feel like Holden in Catcher in the Rye!

I really struggle with this. 
Or people who just blatantly ignore you or don’t include you in a social discussion like at work. 
It’s something that really upsets me, zaps my energy, and makes me feel more useless than I usually do.

Any advice on how to deal with this/process this would be greatly appreciated. 

There's a lot of fakery out there but I'm not sure how much relates to a particular neurotype.  There are also, it seems, different kinds of fakery.  I do remember, many years ago and before knowing that I'm autistic, reading "Games People Play" and it really chimed with me.  Much of the usual human interaction around us seems to me to fall into the category of games or passtimes rather than real communication but I think this might be inculcated into us all from birth onwards. 

That said, the games always exhausted me and I yearned for more authenticity, which, when I attempted it, always seemed to unsettle people.  I didn't get the impression that they wanted to drill down and lose the gaminess.  But maybe my neurodivergent mind has a different relationship to the games?  Or maybe I'm actually playing a hard game of "I know a better way?"  I'm not sure.  Certainly I couldn't keep it up for as long as others seem to and this might be because my gaming was usually masking, whether theirs was a better fit and more consistent with their characters. 

So I can stand outside the usual games but maybe fall into the habit of taking an "Emperor's New Clothes" stance to life.  And people don't like having the finger pointed.  :)      

I wondered about masking too. I think maybe intentions are different. I don't know!

Funny how popular this has been - the OP was a year ago and I added my comment yesterday.  I like your theory Daniel but there are complications, for instance if an autistic person is successfully masking to create a personality - even if it is built out of learned fragments of behaviour and speech - that is unauthentic really - and a bit how I feel.  People have certain ideas about me which are wrong but I am the one that put them there by trying to fake some sort of 'image'.  But I always tell people it is impossible for me to lie - I can't, I don't know how. So I hate it when people get the wrong end of the stick because it makes me appear dishonest.  There is certainly something about authenticity in autism. Growing up I was considered rude and too direct, much to my surprise.  I tell it like it is - also known as 'social disinhibition'. 

I do like this theory, Daniel. I want to be able to meet real autistic people (I mean in real life) to be able to make a better judgement. 

Tassimo,

This post actually relates to a theory of mine, I have the theory “authenticity” is another characteristic of Autism. Look at my response below if you want to read a little more.

I’ve always believed those who refer to themselves as “normal” are fake, that they do not behave as their authentic selves when in groups. They pretend to be someone they’re not (conformity) in order to fit into the crowd.

This is a difference I’ve noticed in the autistic people I’ve listened to, people on The Autism Spectrum seem to be more willing to live as our authentic selves even when it means not fitting into the group, less vulnerable to peer pressure.

I’ve actually come to a theory of my own involving autistic people living an authentic life. My theory is that Autism is possibly a condition of authenticity, when we look at the characteristics of Autism we can see they relate to authenticity. Honest opinions for example, honest opinions are authentic opinions. 

I looked online and apparently I’m not the only person who’s come to this theory of authenticity, there’s others who have actually done experimental research and the results support this theory, this is just their starting point. So I believe authenticity is possibly another characteristic of Autism.

yes

dont think they deserved one tbh as they havent caused peace, the devastation of war caused peace as europe has been too crippled, and even now are not back to the strength we was.... britain had like 100 destroyers in ww2, we only now have like 6 and they cant leave port without leaking lol europe is dead, its death held it back and made it so it cant make any moves. devastation and destruction is thus the winner of that peace prize lol

the next big peace will come when china and america cripple each other

So, we all can put Nobel Prize Winner on our CVs?! ;) 

in which case we were all part of the 'team' that contributed to it

probably is, hes been mentioning his nobel prize on every thread he can see lol then claims to have humility on one thread was rather funny lol

but then it got odd when you look into who got that prize in 2012 and no team got it at all... the EU got it for supposedly promoted peace just by their very existance.

Caelus said:

had a guy on here making out hes the smartest man in history and has nobel peace prizes

Is that the guy that Deepthought and I tried to interact with?   The UN advisor / Nobel prize winner that was posting about trauma?

Sounds more like a Bipolar episode, than a conscious lie!?

so would i 

I met my first autistic person yesterday in a local autism cafe. I only had a brief conversation with him, but it felt a lot less stressful than the usual interactions with people. I'd like to meet some more autistic people so I can make a better judgement. 

indeed, its one of the oldest lessons too given a certain someone was crucified by rome for claiming to be a living demi god lol never goes down too well. when someone sets themselves so high the only way left is down naturally.