Question time

Agape, I am a little worried about you, your posting style suggest that something slightly deeper might be going in. Do you maybe have a CPN that you can talk to about what is going on at this moment; if you don't you can ask your GP for a referral to your local community mental health team. Sometimes it's good to talk to someone freely and openly with out the worry of how they will think of you after, I have a CPN that I see every few weeks and it find it very helpful. 

I worry a little that your posting stye my cause some people to become annoyed, the last time you had trouble sleeping and started lots of random threads some members found it difficult and asked you not to do it and here you are doing it again; nobody wants to be unkind but some may run out of patience. 

Perhaps if you were to keep your religious thoughts to The Autistic Christian thread rather than start new ones that would help to keep the number of new threads you start down a bit. 

I say this with the best will in the world, I hope you will take it with the good intentions with which it was meant; and because I think a lot of people might not want this to become a thing. 

I don't think it matters that agape wants to post in that style. The person's not said anything wrong. Surely, the one place autistic people should not have to feel confined is on here....just sayin'

I did not in any way say that Agape had done anything wrong but only that I was concerned because of an on going posting stye that suggested that the OP was perhaps struggling in the middle of the night. I feel that I would have been remiss not to show concern.

I am not in any way trying to confine anybody but only making a suggestion because there has to be an element of compromise here, some are finding the forum difficult to use and I care that Agape can express their self in a way that they need to... Just saying. 

I was just reporting the outcome for the mods to read. Sorry I thought you would be more concerned.

Your comments like "I thought we were all finished", "chill out" and "whatever you say buddy" towards me  were patronizing and unhelpful when I was trying to support Leaf who was being trolled. I tried to recover her via PM. She was upset.

Cloudy Mountains said:

I thought that you'd finished taking

I'll finish when I want to

That's unfortunate, but I can't see that I have anything to do with that. I find it quite odd that you'd try to attibute that to me. 

I was perfectly polite and rational. It's all there, and unedited, I might add for people to see in black and white.

I thought that you'd finished taking about this as you had previously stated. Unfortunately it seems not.

Sadly Leaf has left the forum she could no longer cope with the personal attacks. 

Sadly Leaf has left the forum she could no longer cope with the personal attacks. 

Leaf I'm new here and new to the world of autism (I am autistic.) I notice some of your posts are a bit unkind and there is nothing in your bio.

Mesmerist said:

Sorry Leaf if you thought I was being passive aggressive.

It is universal recognised online that to end a post with .... just saying is a snarky passive aggressive phrase used to imply that the poster feels they have the superior or the moral high ground so therefore don't feel the need to explain themselves further or expects to get the last word, so please, do not try to gaslight me by insinuating that I am mistaken. 

Good eve everyone. Sorry Leaf if you thought I was being passive aggressive. I think Cloudy Mountains has put it better than me. ie: The site is for everyone. Also i think yr quite right Aidie to report things to mods if y ou feel someone is in distress. 

Whatever you say buddy. I thought we were all finished. I don't think anyone has anything else to add then. Have a good evening.

Like i said I have done nothing wrong. 

We are not intolerant. We fed back to the agape. I have informed the mods that there have been several people confused/distressed/concerned by the multiple threads and odd postings.   This forum is for ALL people with autism no one said otherwise.

"One or 2 more people like this and the forum will lose loads of users" is justified by "I have informed the mods that there have been several people confused/distressed/concerned by the multiple threads and odd postings."

and like Leaf

"I can't add anymore to this conversation I don't think as I seem to keep saying the same thing over and over again. "

early on i did think it was a bot, threads where appearing at the same time.  The posts seemed like an AI. Yep I'm done as well. Thanks Leaf.

aidie said:

This forum is for ALL people with autism no one said otherwise.

well.....

aidie said:

One or 2 more people like this and the forum will lose loads of users. 

That doesn't sound very welcoming.

Let agape get a feel for the place. Chill out.

aidie said:

I was also worried someone had released a Bot on this forum.

I didn't think the postings were from a Bot but I was worried about how Agape was feeling and was she feeling worse later at night. 

I can't add anymore to this conversation I don't think as I seem to keep saying the same thing over and over again. 

Ah, OK. I've been here quite some time, and I've seen people start posting and aren't familiar with the format, or ettiquette that the site has at first.

People usually settle in well after a while. Agape may or may not be used to the site.

Hopefully they settle into the place well.

Leaf did nothing wrong her concern is real.

We are not intolerant. We fed back to the agape. I have informed the mods that there have been several people confused/distressed/concerned by the multiple threads and odd postings.   This forum is for ALL people with autism no one said otherwise.

Cup of tea anyone ?

I wasn't referring to you - I am very sorry if you though I was. I was referring to Mrs JR. 

I did not express disapproval towards Agape but I do not approve of Mrs JR's passive aggressive remarks. 

So because I've never spoke to you I can't comment? Seems a very closed attitude.

Expressing disapproval can be disguised as "concern".

I haven't been passive-aggressive either. I've stated the plain facts that this site is for ALL autistic people, and that there is nothing offensive here. Let the mods do their job.

It is only Mrs JR who is suggesting that there is something offensive, and I object profusely to anybody saying I was. 

I was concerned for Agape NOT criticising her/them. I offered a suggestion that might offer a working solution to both parties and help Agape express as they feel they need to. 

If this is a forum for ALL people with Autism then I don't expect to be subject to passive aggressive intolerances either, especially from someone I don't know or have never communicated with. 

I am being careful.  I am not intolerant. I fed back to the agape. I have informed the mods that there have been several people confused/distressed/concerned by the multiple threads and odd postings. So its up to the mods. I was also worried someone had released a Bot on this forum.

What have you done ?

This is a site for ALL autistic people.

I don't see anything offensive, if it's deemed as a problem it's up to the mods.

By telling people to be careful you run the risk of being as intolerant as you suggest others are - who are to to decide what is intolerance and just not coping. 

By telling people to be careful you run the risk of being as intolerant as you suggest others are - who are to to decide what is intolerance and just not coping. 

Thank you all good people

Ah, Thank You! For that reply, About all of my posting really long stuff/info. Here is a more direct link for anyone to that other Thread:

 https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/17005/new-threads-rule/

Good luck, to All who are good... (!)...

Thank you. My new thread that DC referred to is called New threads-rule if anyone would like to contribute in this more suitable thread for such a topic as this thread has turned into.

To "Mesmerist" - Mrs Mesmerist!... Yay, Thank You for that reply! I am glad that You are OK and understood.

True enough, what You say about "downvoting", was what I (also tried to say) said somewhere here as well. One of Your replies near the top, has <>5 voters, yet only currently shows a +1.  It is not easy to know who is voting up or down (Mr.WebPM might know), but I shall say that I for one was an upvoter. As it stands, Your voted up/down/up/down/up reply is a good example of how weird things can sometimes go upon here... but...

NO it is not always like this! So Please bear with it, as You said there, calm and observing, stick to One's own principles. As You defend Yourself, then that is a good thing. When REAL Trolls or "nasty" people appear, then many of us can recognise them after a bit since they are *consistently* nasty. Sometimes they target a single User, sometimes they just downvote silently.

Also, a person not knowing how to use this Forum, may seem nasty at first, yet be willing to learn. I keep saying that all this should be said upon Agape's Newer Thread, but I put it here as You say You are New and I wanted to Thank You for the reply.

...I could say other things, but this is long enough already, so I must send it or else this might disappear.

Multiple posts in one day from only one or 2 Users is usually a SPAM thing, which partly explains the "bot" accusations and why people here are a bit jumpy about it. I hope You get what I mean. (Sheesh this is a long reply...)

Yes agree. I can't see anything offensive and not sure why it's being attributed to either of us. I think what happened basically is that we stood up for Agape. Best wishes, Mesmerist aka MrsJR.

I'm Mrs JR. I changed my user name because everyone seems to be using pseudonyms. If you look back through the thread, I was standing up for agape because I thought he/she was being treated in an unwelcome way by the person called Leaf. I could see that Cloudy Mountain also felt the same way.

A couple of points: I'm Aspergers. I had a late diagnosis this year. I'm 55.

I only joined the community on here this week and straight away felt unwelcome.

One of my Master's Degrees was in Strategic HR where I researched bullying in the work place. I am very anti-bullying and think everyone should be kind. I don't like unhelpful rules like telling agape not post too many threads. That's up to the moderators not Aidie or Leaf or anyone else.

I notice there is a lot of 'down-voting' on comments but without reasons why which seems very hostile and led me to the conclusion that the environment might be a bit 'trolly'.

I also noticed in one of your posts below that you said there are nasty people - I don't know who you are referring to but I hope it's not me.

All the very best MrsJR aka Mesmerist.

(I might sign off after this. I am glad You are all OK --- Cloudy, Mrs.Fox, Aldie. And Agape. I last post Here, a counter-provocation, perhaps...

Provocative Downvoters just downvote --- But they do not Post a reason WHY...?)

too much like a lady perhaps 

I’m ok  

It’s ok DC, I ‘get it’ now, I hadn’t read the other thread. Been too busy to read all threads as on end of holiday and packing suitcases while drinking red wine

Ok. Thank you for explaining, I didn’t understand the context.

aidie said:

yea i'll talk to Mods tomorrow to get it frozen tomorrow.

...Um, sorry to bother You again, but which Thread(s) do you mean? I kind of wanted both of these Threads (from Agape) to continue? Agape, as Cloudy said, was having trouble settling in.

I might be waiting for AGAPE to respond, as the OP of both Threads. Agape seems fine, just learning, as I did when I first came here. (As I said, I almost got thrown off!) You are also fine... but what I referred to were the massive downvoters upon this Thread.

There are lots of Threads here which have been started, gone off at a tangent, and then massively downvoted, then the Moderators say something, then the Thread recovers...

The problem is/was random "downvoters" or persons who hijack a thread irrespective of the Starting subject. 

Sometimes a Thread can recover. Like I said, I can really only wait. (If anyone downvotes ME that is a good indicator --- not to brag or anything... !!!?!!)

P.S. All else reading... when at school, An All-Girls school, some could spit and I could not! Go figure...! 

yea i'll talk to Mods tomorrow to get it frozen tomorrow. It was a pleasure talking to u DC if are ever in N. Ireland just mention my name. wait for a pause. Then your drinks will be free.

Thank You Aldie. Please calm down everyone who is currently posting (!). Yes it is a shame about Leaf and that there are nasty people who often post. Honestly, look at the replies I gave to Cloudy, and there *is* a New Thread from Agape. My memory is limited (stressed, tee-hee) so I cannot engage *everyone*...!

I always vote up, but with Threads where no-one is voting, I might hang back a bit. Thanks for reading. 

just seen ur next post - i was right you are as sound as a pound depending on your MPG ( a joke stolen from Plastic )

leaf was right

I was not here last weeks (3 months) so I would not know who JR was. I believe Aldie, and support Miss Kitsune. Is everyone okay, now?

...Hey, hey! None of that s'pecially about Me now! I get it! (see next post)

we were having fun in the men only thread i started. she's sound as a pound.

That’s a really rude thing to say! DC is a woman, I don’t understand why you feel the need to insinuate that she is a man?