Autisic shutdown or severe social anxiety?

Hello, I'm looking for some insight into shutdowns please.

My daughter is awaiting assessment and I don't know if she is experiencing shutdowns or if it's due to severe social anxiety. Can you differentiate?

To date, we have had two appointments and she has been fine going, doesn't seem stressed or worried at all but as soon as we enter the room she becomes a completely different child, can't speak, can't look at the nurse.  She can't even look at me or answer any questions from the nurse or myself.  Once the appointment has ended and we leave, she is sometimes not talking to me even if I talk to her about something completely different.  This also happens when going to other health appointments and when trying to get her to school as she is struggling to attend.

I have looked at other posts on here about shutdowns but if anyone has any further information on whether this sounds like shutdowns that would be most helpful.

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  • This twitter poll should help! https://twitter.com/AnnMemmott/status/1546144469094891523

    This is an Autistic Academic who asked AutisticTwitter :) 

    The reason for this is due to THE very fundamental Neurological difference between Autistic and Non-Autistic. From what's understood so far, most humans are designed to be 'wired' neurologically with strong connexions in their language and semiotic (let's call them) compartments of the brain. This means they receive coded language and signals in society which use all kinds subtleties with symbols and linguistics. With these 'signals' containing 'codes', they learn your fundamental Defence Mechanisms as Freud, Lacan, and all others discovered to help suppress inappropriate instinct and turn them into mature behaviours. Language can be fluid. Most importantly, this keeps the tribe together and so one might do anything to stay included, affirmed, approved of. 

    Now, Autistic neuro-wiring is different! We might have strong connexions in our picture-thinking and analytical parts. The ones that use formulas to reason or can see in detail in the imagination. We don't receive the codes to dull our senses (in some papers it's discovered we have different beta wave oscillations which keep our senses alert). In ancient tribal situations we would be 1 in 40, not worried too much about hanging out around the fire, instead, sitting off with the Sage studying all kinds of 'alchemy' or medicine to keep the tribe alive. 

    More research has shown the brain is resourceful and will compartmentalise to focus 'battery' use. Which means, in hyper-analytical mode, one might not have these wild firings in the language compartments. Once the intense and very innate problem-solving machines in the brain have reached their conclusions or filed notes for the day, the brian might allow more 'traffic' back to the language-y bits. 

    I am actually working on compiling all this and publishing it. But try deep problem-solving while being social and you might realise it's quite difficult. Most individuals need 'a moment to focus' on a difficult task. It's how the brain works. 

    I'm going to add that matters which Create Anxiety or Stress or a heightened need to be Diligent, when autistic one may either become incredibly clumsy, foggy, overwhelmed, or go silent. It simply depends on personality and if they've been taught how to work with their strengths and be mindful of their limits. Edit: Allowing for Silence is the healthy route! 

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  • This twitter poll should help! https://twitter.com/AnnMemmott/status/1546144469094891523

    This is an Autistic Academic who asked AutisticTwitter :) 

    The reason for this is due to THE very fundamental Neurological difference between Autistic and Non-Autistic. From what's understood so far, most humans are designed to be 'wired' neurologically with strong connexions in their language and semiotic (let's call them) compartments of the brain. This means they receive coded language and signals in society which use all kinds subtleties with symbols and linguistics. With these 'signals' containing 'codes', they learn your fundamental Defence Mechanisms as Freud, Lacan, and all others discovered to help suppress inappropriate instinct and turn them into mature behaviours. Language can be fluid. Most importantly, this keeps the tribe together and so one might do anything to stay included, affirmed, approved of. 

    Now, Autistic neuro-wiring is different! We might have strong connexions in our picture-thinking and analytical parts. The ones that use formulas to reason or can see in detail in the imagination. We don't receive the codes to dull our senses (in some papers it's discovered we have different beta wave oscillations which keep our senses alert). In ancient tribal situations we would be 1 in 40, not worried too much about hanging out around the fire, instead, sitting off with the Sage studying all kinds of 'alchemy' or medicine to keep the tribe alive. 

    More research has shown the brain is resourceful and will compartmentalise to focus 'battery' use. Which means, in hyper-analytical mode, one might not have these wild firings in the language compartments. Once the intense and very innate problem-solving machines in the brain have reached their conclusions or filed notes for the day, the brian might allow more 'traffic' back to the language-y bits. 

    I am actually working on compiling all this and publishing it. But try deep problem-solving while being social and you might realise it's quite difficult. Most individuals need 'a moment to focus' on a difficult task. It's how the brain works. 

    I'm going to add that matters which Create Anxiety or Stress or a heightened need to be Diligent, when autistic one may either become incredibly clumsy, foggy, overwhelmed, or go silent. It simply depends on personality and if they've been taught how to work with their strengths and be mindful of their limits. Edit: Allowing for Silence is the healthy route! 

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