Lying & controlling impulses - urgent advice please

Hi, I've not posted on here before but I'm lost and in need of help and advice.  I have a dearly loved 17 year old daughter who was diagnosed a year ago with autism (aspergers was the description).   She is also dysgraphic, dyspraxic and dyscalculic and generally has a complicated learning profile yet despire all of that has just achieved 7 good GCSE passes which is amazing.   She is now at a FE college studying for A'levels.  My specific question for the forum is about lying and controlling behaviour impulses.  So many children lie and teenagers particularly (I'm the Mum of 2 adult neurotypical sons too so have got through it twice!) but my daughter lies about everything to everyone.  It could be telling us she has had lunch at college when she hasn't, to  more serious stuff like creating multiple personalities and life histories which she tells everyone from friends at college to people she has met online.  She has so little life experience having been alone so much as she has struggled to make and keep friends that she makes things up to pretend thats not the case but is attracting the wrong people and making the wrong claims (for example of sexual experience when she has none).  Also even more worrying she has been engaging with an online anime gaming community and we discovered she had been talking to a man online and it turns out he got her to take her top off etc etc.  Grim stuff.  She is telling people he's her boyfriend but they've never met and i think he may be in the US (but dont' know this).  I recently found her without enough clothes on talking to him and so have taken away laptop and phone and am now beside myself with worry about what I've found and trying to figure out how to protect her.  Of course I've talked relentlessly about this over the years to her and of course now again too about the terrible danger she could place heerself in. Unfortunately when I took her phone away I squeezed arm gently in the struggle as she didn't want to give it up and now she has told friends I physically abused her.  She even wrote to her tutor at college at the suggestions of her friends, so I've had to talk to the safeguarding person - who ended the conversation telling me I was amazing - as i sobbed.  Her 'best friend' suggested she go to a run away shelter yet she can barely speak to people or function when anxious - her flight and fight is to shut down so some friend. 

My husband (her Dad) and I feel completely out of our depth and are so worried about her and just don't know what to do when she goes back to college on Monday.  We know she will lie to everyone and I just don't want to give her her phone back, but I also want her to be able to reach us.  We gave her the laptop back to do college work briefly and she has recontacted the man online as she just doesn't get it.  We don't know to protect her as she just doesn't get the inappropriateness or risk.  In addition and perhaps linked, before this, we opened a bank account for her to try and teach her budgetting (she can barely count money) we thought being able to tap a card would help her and we wanted her to pay to get home if she needed as her college is a distance away.  However as soon as she had the account, she spent everything we put into it on junk items she bought online and then despite us talking to her about it, when we put a bit more money in so she could buy her lunch at college or some cash in an emergency she did it again.     It seems like she can't control her impulses including to stop lying.  This is all made worse because i's almost impossible to talk to her about it as she shuts down and becomes mute.  She finds expressing nay difficult emotion or experience very challenging so its hard to make progress but occassionally I seem to break through andthen the she goes straight back to where she was  

My husband and I are trying to work out next steps and wondered about looking for a clinical pscyhologist  - although she will lie to them I fear so they will need to be good to get through that!  But is that the right approach?  I wondered if anyone had experienced anything similar and if you have any tips or ideas of what we should be doing.  My beloved girl is awesome when she is her and doesn't need to be anyone else.  She is bright, kind, compassionate, prinicpled and funny but the tragedy is too few people see it and I'm so fearful she will come to harm now she is officially nearly an adult, yet so far from it.

Any ideas so very welcome.  Thank you.

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  • She may well have another disorder, but my first thought was the lying is more down to her trying to fit in, than anything else. Changing who she is to each person she meets, and making a new situation or life for that?

    Yes, she maybe putting herself at risk, but you’re doing all you can. You’re encouraging her to do the right thing, and intervening when you need to. However, there comes a time when you have to let go. Let her make mistakes, and you support her through the aftermath. In time, she will come to the right conclusions, but for now she thinks she knows it all. 


    They get older, and you know that despite their mature outlook and capabilities, they’re still vulnerable and naive, and it’s hard. The amount of situations I’ve had to get my daughter out of is beyond beleif!

    Regarding money, it’s best to spread things out. Get her a prepaid travel card for trains or buses for when she needs it. If she needs money for items, I would buy them from your own account. By all means leave some money in her account, but if she spends it, she’ll have to wait for the next payment and go without in the meantime. It’s tough, but she’ll soon start to realise…

  • Thank you yes I've wondered about another disorder but I don't know which one!  I truly am trying to be light touch and allow her to grow up and make her mistakes as that's the way most of us learn.  I just left this a bit long and trusted a bit too much and have been scared by what I've discovered.   I think it just added another level of complexity I hadn't realised was there - the different personalities (yes agree this is masking), lies to deliver on people's expectations (e.g. teachers) and behaviour for attention I expect as she's been too much alone.  The not understanding consequences is hard to know how to address - I agree about the money - we were just tryng to teach her budgetting (well that was a fail!).  She's great in so many ways I just don't know how to keep her safe and help her navigate this new growing up phase.   Hey ho, we will work it out I'm sure.  Thanks for your kindness.

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  • Thank you yes I've wondered about another disorder but I don't know which one!  I truly am trying to be light touch and allow her to grow up and make her mistakes as that's the way most of us learn.  I just left this a bit long and trusted a bit too much and have been scared by what I've discovered.   I think it just added another level of complexity I hadn't realised was there - the different personalities (yes agree this is masking), lies to deliver on people's expectations (e.g. teachers) and behaviour for attention I expect as she's been too much alone.  The not understanding consequences is hard to know how to address - I agree about the money - we were just tryng to teach her budgetting (well that was a fail!).  She's great in so many ways I just don't know how to keep her safe and help her navigate this new growing up phase.   Hey ho, we will work it out I'm sure.  Thanks for your kindness.

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