Swearing

I have high functioning son who's 6. 

He's usually wellbehaved and social ( maybe too social sometimes) good at some things bad at others.

I've been very proud of him for not swearing, but he started with saying What the hell for a few days alot of times ( never in anger it just pops out of his mouth on any occasion) . Liie any parents do they say the usual thing that it's a bad word and dont use it or other things I ignore it.

I dont swear in english or basically never. When I get mad I swear in my own language which he doesnt understand. 

One day we went the playground and when we were heading home and to the gate we ran and I came first to the gate, he didnt like that and hates not to win. So he got angry and swore using the F word ( which I really hate and NEVER use ) ...I got really disappointed and told him off to not use that word ever again.

He didnt keep that word away.  He saw an edited peppa pig video and heard the word wtf and I took the tablet away immediately. And I told him it's not good word.

So now for a week he's been saying it. Never in anger just spontaneously. Its always like

We dont say what the f*** mummy 

Does the teddy say What the f**** 

Does the little girl say What the F**** , no mummy shes a good girl she doesnt say what the f**** 

I cant get the bad word go away mummy it wont go away 

I dream about what the f**** 

I'm a good boy I dont say what the f***

And so on and so on. He even wakes me up in the morning with telling me that we dont say what the f****

I LITERALLY cant deal!! When I tell him to use other words he just says " we wont say what the f**** we have to say other words like what the fudge instead and be a good boy" and then he can be quiet for a few min or hours and then seem upset that the F word wont go away. 

He cries when I tell him to not say it. He says he's teaching me not to say it. For me it's like now it's any excuse just say that horrible word. 

I avoid crowded places.if I see other children I get so anxious that he will slip up. I even had to let him not to go behind a family that was walking out of the station because I knew he would say " the little girl dont say what the f***" 

When we went home on the train there was alot of people on it and when it was all quiet he just said to me We dont say what the f**** mummy after being quiet for a while( he speaks his mind alot)Of course people listened and I just wanted to die. Hes been so wellbehaved for all our journeys on the train for many years but now all he wants to say the F word whenever he does.

It's gotten so bad because he is literally obsessed now. I just dont know what to do but to make him stay grounded for the rest of his swearing days. I cant do that but come on. Please help me here. He goes to a special needs school so I hope the teachers will tell him not to say that word.

I'm the end of my tether please give me some advice.

  • Echolalia! There IS actually something enjoyable about those syllables. As a parent, if there was something that could be harmful in a social setting I would reinforce that we have a delegated place to use it / do it. For instance, you may throw rocks into the water (ocean, stream) but not around people. However, I would always stress the Yes element to this as my father taught me: A thing only has as much power as we allow it.

    Along this line of thinking, you could delegate an appropriate time to use the word like at bedtime (there's even a book called go the F*** to sleep). This can have the added effect of his learning how to be disciplined with the appropriate time setting or location for something which is not "forbidden". Allowing a thing can can dull the enjoyment of or deisre for it.

    You could integate the use of Frack around the house instead. Battlestar Galactica style. 

    He says he's teaching me not to say it.

    I think this is your best clue, here as to what is happening. 1. Father-Son bonding through intense passion. 2. A learning style of his calculation / computing / Processing out loud.

    Humans can form bonds from things which impact them severely (alliance over our shared enemies for ex.). If there is a sort of intensity/passion over how much you deplore this word, it is the passion/intensity which he's been impacted by and you may want to find other passions - things which are deeply intense, inspiring, terrifying to teach him so he can mirror and process that instead. Part of how we learn is actually through trying to explain it to another. You may have to quickly find a way to dull your excitement/intensity/gut response to the word f*** and throw all of that passion into teaching him to tie knots or build something or Nerd out over - whatever you feel more of an intense passion for. 

  • Absolutely agree that you should talk to your GP about this.

    If you've already done that and still searching for guidance. Perhaps this might help...

    Being an adult in my 40s now (and not diagnosed until my late 20s), I recently (unfortunately) suffered an autistic burnout/regression, and quite literally found myself having so much stress and anxiety that parts of my brain regressed to young childlike behaviours.

    My point being, that experience has allowed me to reflect back on my entire life and put myself in the perspective of someone on the spectrum.

    I absolutely can understand your 6-year old son's mindset as he goes around insisting not to say the bad F word. I found myself recently (when recovering from my regression) stuck on a loop in my head the same thought pattern, over and over. And when I would then talk to people, I would be quite OBSESSED with trying to articulate that pattern, over and over. It was rather "odd" to experience.

    I wonder if your son has some kind of "pattern" stuck in his head that is looping over and over, until he properly gets that pattern out? He doesn't want to forget, so he keeps repeating it, over and over. Unfortunately, it's tied to the F word, so it makes communication a bit more difficult (plus, he's only 6, so it'll likely be years before he fully understands what's going on with himself). Maybe you can try to talk to him to find out what that pattern is for him, and why it is so important to him. Ask him why? Even if it doesn't make sense to you (it most likely won't), try to help him understand "why", but in a way that he can explain it back to you. (Again, I know he's only 6, so this all must be extremely difficult and frustrating for you and him.)

    All the best of luck...and patience.

  • must be a phase then 

  • Tbf I am 16 and at 7 or maybe 8 I was swearing, not good but it can be an Anxiety release mechanism

  • really  that is a surprise 

  • No school promotes it but maybe some are less tolerante to it

  • of course they are

  • Doubt that would happen.im a single mom and could never afford it. I'm working at a private school though. They are just as bad there than anywhere else.

  • tell him/get him to use 'Feck', the Father Ted swear word which at least cant get you into serious trouble,

  • i dunno, i think perhaps the only way around it is private school, but yeah thats usually for the rich lol
    i doubt private schools would promote any vulgarity.

  • I wish my son could swear in beautiful language too 

  • oh my -- i taught a Tourettes guy to swear in italian and french so he wouldnt offend so many people -- it took months but it worked really well.

  • Oh my goodness it's true.

    Everyone used to complain how sweet natured he was and that he needed to stand up for himself cuz other kids would take advantage of him. Now it's complete changed and he is rude at times and has no filter. And that's still not good enough. 

    There's no ways about it. What do you do? Can't really do much.

  • could be that i guess. in that case he would need a alternative catchy phrase to take its place. probably requires a memeified word... just using fudge wont work.... would need to be a mass used catchy meme that is like a mass repeated catchy reference.

    i myself got the N word stuck as one of my ticks after watching a GTA meme or lemar saying it.... i can half manage to change it to the jojo meme word for run which is similar but adding "andayo" to the end of it lol

  • it sounds like tourettes to me -- please take him to your GP.   Or OCD.

  • yeah, your son will pick up these things from the internet, and from other kids in school.... but the thing is, if he doesnt pick these things up and say them, he will probably be bullied by other kids in school for not being "cool" enough.

    its tough, but hes gonna have to keep up with other kids bad language or him being too polite will make him a target... but then that shows school forces you to be a bad impolite person in order for you to fit in. theres not much way around it. theres 2 choices, he learns alot of bad language and eve n gets sexualised very early and he fits in with the others and is safe, or he stays polite doesnt use bad words doesnt get early sexualised, and then he gets bullied like hell by everyone. thats the way it is sadly, we have a degenerate society because of this.

    soon as i joined high school i was bombarded by people saying sexual terms i didnt understand and questioning me on them knowing i didnt know so they can mock my innocence and bully me for it. that probably happens earlier now. society is a cess pit, this needs to change but i cant see it changing, i can only see it getting worse and leading to civilisation collapse in the future.

  • It's no use to put him in his room. He will be in his room every minute of the day every day and he starts to panic as soon as he blurts the banned words. It wouldn't be good for his mental health. So I sometimes ignore it and its all good for a while. But

    Unfortunately it's gotten worse..a girl in his class is constantly swearing and he copies her everyday even though he's been told we don't swear. I asked the teachers about it and they just shrugged and said that she doesn't understand these words and there's not much they can do about it but just tell her we don't swear. She has asd too.

    So now I get the occasional F*** baby 

    I hate you mummy( he learnt that from the girl who always says she hates me as well even though we don't know each other) 

    We are f***ing ( I tell him he's too young)

    F***ing stupid 

    F***k

    Fat guys

    I hate you

    the big fat hen

    You f***k baby

    You're  f****King 

    I need to take note from the teachers. If they can't do anything about this issue so neither can I. 

    It's really dragging. It makes him look like a thug with a potty mouth.

    Hopefully summer holiday and a month without this girl from school will fix things and then get back with a vengeance in fall.

  • Possibly put him in time out everytime he uses the swear word, and during time out don't have a long discussion with him, until the time out is over.  

    Otherwise, whenever he says "What the f***" Correct him by saying "Fudge, say what the fudge."

      

  • Thanks everyone for your replies. It's so nice to hear from other peoples opinions. Hes been swearing still and it never comes from anger though. It just pops out from his mouth when we sit quietly and watch something. He feels really bad about it and tells me he cant help it and that he promises to never use a bad word again...and seconds later it comes out again. 

    I just dont say anything about, I dont mention it. I just say ok then good that you wont say it. His grandma called on video chat today and he just turned shy and wanted to swear so bad but turned away ...he was ok for a little while though and started playing with his teddy bears and putting nappies on them and showing her them. His grandpa also wanted to speak to him. When my son said the F word grandpa wasnt phased at all and just laughed and told him to use something worse instead hmmm.....I think it's me who's more anxious of what other people think of him and I think he senses that.

    Tomorrow hes back to school and he said he's gonna miss me but I believe it will be good for him to see his other autistic friends. I just worry they will copy him but I guess these kids have heard alot during easter holiday. You cant put them in cotton wool there will be swearing everywhere .

  • Hmm, I don't know but it may be an OCD thing. I was diagnosed with OCD at sixteen or thereabouts, and I used to spit a lot, which really irritated my step dad, who would be complaining about it constantly. I understood, but I couldn't explain why I had to do it, I knew it was an illogical OCD thing so I just had to put up with being told off for it. 

    Thing is though, when he left spitting stopped being one of the things I did as often. It wasn't that I was deliberately trying to anger him but maybe unconciously I was, I don't know. 

    All I know is that once I stopped getting in trouble about it I stopped doing it as much. It was very frustrating for me to not be able to stop and equally as frustrating that I suddenly could once he wasn't on my case about it, but based on that I'd recommend trying to ignore it as best you can, and see if that has any effect. 

    Good luck :) 

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